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RE: Is God really real or are people simply deluded?
March 11, 2015 at 9:42 pm
(March 11, 2015 at 6:12 pm)Godschild Wrote: (March 11, 2015 at 2:28 pm)Irrational Wrote: It makes unlikely to be true. You're not even making an effort to demonstrate that you do. That tells me a lot.
I call you BS, does that mean you do not exist, hope, hope, hope.
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See? You can't make a serious effort to demonstrate that you know God is real.
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RE: Is God really real or are people simply deluded?
March 11, 2015 at 9:53 pm
(March 11, 2015 at 9:42 pm)Irrational Wrote: (March 11, 2015 at 6:12 pm)Godschild Wrote: I call you BS, does that mean you do not exist, hope, hope, hope.
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See? You can't make a serious effort to demonstrate that you know God is real.
He can't and he won't because he knows he's got nothing that constitutes anything approaching testable, verifiable evidence. If he had any at all he'd be shitting it all over every thread like an elephant with a bad case of the runs.
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RE: Is God really real or are people simply deluded?
March 11, 2015 at 11:33 pm
(March 11, 2015 at 9:53 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: (March 11, 2015 at 9:42 pm)Irrational Wrote: See? You can't make a serious effort to demonstrate that you know God is real.
He can't and he won't because he knows he's got nothing that constitutes anything approaching testable, verifiable evidence. If he had any at all he'd be shitting it all over every thread like an elephant with a bad case of the runs.
I haven't what you consider evidence, but I have personal evidence and you can't prove I do not. As far as knowing God is real well that is all I need, the burden is upon you to find out He's real.
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RE: Is God really real or are people simply deluded?
March 11, 2015 at 11:35 pm
Maybe it is Satan saying he is god.
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RE: Is God really real or are people simply deluded?
March 11, 2015 at 11:40 pm
(March 11, 2015 at 11:33 pm)Godschild Wrote: I haven't what you consider evidence, but I have personal evidence and you can't prove I do not. As far as knowing God is real well that is all I need, the burden is upon you to find out He's real.
All I need to read to know what you've got is a big fat goose egg. The burden of proof is always on the person who claims to have evidence.
For example: I sent you a million dollar cashiers check. I have evidence that I did. Try to prove I didn't. ----- Good luck with that.
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RE: Is God really real or are people simply deluded?
March 11, 2015 at 11:44 pm
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(March 11, 2015 at 11:35 pm)IATIA Wrote: Maybe it is Satan saying he is god.
What if Satan is really the good guy and god is the bad one.
Kill count wise i am going with the one who has the lowest Satan wins by default.
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RE: Is God really real or are people simply deluded?
March 11, 2015 at 11:55 pm
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(March 11, 2015 at 12:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (March 11, 2015 at 8:43 am)Nestor Wrote: So, you went from Muslim to agnostic to deist and now you're back on the crazy train?
The crazy train is just more beautiful, and I am in love with The All-Beautiful. The truth is beautiful.
It's also demonstrable.
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RE: Is God really real or are people simply deluded?
March 12, 2015 at 1:03 am
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(March 11, 2015 at 11:35 pm)IATIA Wrote: Maybe it is Satan saying he is god.
God want allow that until the end of time, when the majority of the world will be fooled into believing it.
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(March 11, 2015 at 11:40 pm)Jenny A Wrote: (March 11, 2015 at 11:33 pm)Godschild Wrote: I haven't what you consider evidence, but I have personal evidence and you can't prove I do not. As far as knowing God is real well that is all I need, the burden is upon you to find out He's real.
All I need to read to know what you've got is a big fat goose egg. The burden of proof is always on the person who claims to have evidence.
Christians are taught in the scriptures of God we are not required to prove God, each person has to find that true for themselves by listening to God. I've found the proof through God's truth, if you miss out then you have only yourself to blame.
For example: I sent you a million dollar cashiers check. I have evidence that I did. Try to prove I didn't. ----- Good luck with that.
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You do not have my post office box number, I can give it to you, if you can prove you will send the million. Waiting patiently.
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RE: Is God really real or are people simply deluded?
March 12, 2015 at 3:25 am
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(March 11, 2015 at 6:06 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (March 11, 2015 at 2:48 pm)robvalue Wrote: Oh yeah, many of them are utter hypocrites. They live their life just like an atheist. Which is great, I'm not complaining. I want them to be as far as possible away from their bible, because it makes them better people.
The only way they are not hypocrites is if they don't claim that the bible is divinely inspired. Then they're just sort of spiritual jesusites or something, vaguely calling themselves christian.
They "believe in believing" but clearly do not actually believe praying is gonna do shit, so they do it as an afterthought to real medicine.
I know a Christian who believes Bible is inspired (the over all story, theme, teachings) but that a lot of is untrue, for example, he disagrees what the Bible states about homosexuals.
They think the bible is divinely inspired, but partly untrue? Well, I can only conclude they think that God gets things wrong then. The fact that he did so in the only reference we have about him makes God seem doubly stupid.
What your friend really means (in my opinion) is that they like the idea that it's divinely inspired, but they are still going to ignore bits that don't line up with their own morality. You know, what every religious theist does.
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RE: Is God really real or are people simply deluded?
March 12, 2015 at 11:07 am
(March 12, 2015 at 3:25 am)robvalue Wrote: (March 11, 2015 at 6:06 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I know a Christian who believes Bible is inspired (the over all story, theme, teachings) but that a lot of is untrue, for example, he disagrees what the Bible states about homosexuals.
They think the bible is divinely inspired, but partly untrue? Well, I can only conclude they think that God gets things wrong then. The fact that he did so in the only reference we have about him makes God seem doubly stupid.
What your friend really means (in my opinion) is that they like the idea that it's divinely inspired, but they are still going to ignore bits that don't line up with their own morality. You know, what every religious theist does.
In other words, the Bible was inspired...by some unknown homophobic ignoramus.
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