Christans show Jesus is God and not Satan

[Drich]

Why even bother with the 3/12 years of war?

I'm sure the proff can go into much greater detail, but the 3 and 1/2 years of prosperity and war are ment to seperate the wheat, from Chaff the sheep from the goats.. Meaning it is to get the fence sitters to choose a side.

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Well, 3 1/2 years of peace, and then 3 1/2 years of terrible war. at the end of which God says enough... Then throws everyone with the mark into Hell..

Because the so called mark is needed to buy food, parents who wanted to feed their children will be in hell according to some Christians

-or Christian will simply set up a sub ecconomy/sub culture and buy and sell that way.

[FatAndFaithless]

Why even bother with the 3/12 years of war?

I'm sure the proff can go into much greater detail, but the 3 and 1/2 years of prosperity and war are ment to seperate the wheat, from Chaff the sheep from the goats.. Meaning it is to get the fence sitters to choose a side.

But God already knows who is on what side, doesn't he? And why 3 1/2 years? Why not 3, or 4?

[Drich]

We've already done this..

In short one man's God is another's Satan.

The only determining factor is to whom you want to worship, and with Whom you want to spend your portion of eternity.

Well, ain't that convenient. It means that even if you're worshipping satan, you're fine because it's all a matter of personal choice.

So all this talk of eternal torture if you fall to the devil was just one man's god's propaganda? There is no hell since it's just another man's heaven?

The mental gymnastics must be exhausting.

All any one need to is simply put what God says to the test and equally see if you can cash in on one of Satan's promises.

If what God says pans out, then I'd be sticking with God.

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Haha nice. I did a topic before where I asked people to prove that Satan didn't write the bible. It was barely challenged, and some people even said they didn't care if it was. Amazing.

Probably didn't matter to them because Satan always obeyed Jesus and god. Nowhere in the bible that I'm aware of is found a single action of satanic disobedience.

Well, eventually if you keep reading the bible you will get to the last book call 'Revelation.' This whole book centers around satanic disobedience.

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I'm sure the proff can go into much greater detail, but the 3 and 1/2 years of prosperity and war are ment to seperate the wheat, from Chaff the sheep from the goats.. Meaning it is to get the fence sitters to choose a side.

But God already knows who is on what side, doesn't he? And why 3 1/2 years? Why not 3, or 4?

God knows, but those who will be in the mix don't till they commit themselves down a given path. This whole life isn't for God to discover who is worthy and who is not. it is for us to know, and for our lives and our hearts to bare witness for or against us.

Again this is proff terrtory but "7" is a numerical sign of God. 3.5 years of good and 3.5 years of bad = 7

[Norman Humann]

All any one need to is simply put what God says to the test and equally see if you can cash in on one of Satan's promises.

If what God says pans out, then I'd be sticking with God.

Ok, hold on a minute. How do you know which one is god and which one is satan?

Are you saying there is no difference and you just go with whoever's promises come true?

So much for the ultimate truth, christian morality and the virtue of faith. Turns out it's just "whoever buys me a new car I spend my afterlife with". Oh well.

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ETA: Also, following this path of reasoning:

If one man's god is another man's satan and vice versa,
then one man's hell is another man's heaven and vice versa.

How do you explain the concept of eternal torture as punishment for sins after death in this context?

[FatAndFaithless]

But God already knows who is on what side, doesn't he? And why 3 1/2 years? Why not 3, or 4?

God knows, but those who will be in the mix don't till they commit themselves down a given path. This whole life isn't for God to discover who is worthy and who is not. it is for us to know, and for our lives and our hearts to bare witness for or against us.

Again this is proff terrtory but "7" is a numerical sign of God. 3.5 years of good and 3.5 years of bad = 7

I dont' understand. So got chooses 3 1/2 years because 7 is...'his number'?

And is every human on earth supposed to 'commit themselves down a given path' in those 7 years? What about those that remain undecided? If God already knows what each person is going to do, why does it matter how long he waits?

[Ravenshire]

I'm sure the proff can go into much greater detail, but the 3 and 1/2 years of prosperity and war are ment to seperate the wheat, from Chaff the sheep from the goats.. Meaning it is to get the fence sitters to choose a side.

But God already knows who is on what side, doesn't he? And why 3 1/2 years? Why not 3, or 4?

Because 3-1/2 years is 42 months and we all know that Douglas Adams was the one true prophet.

[Pizza]

We've already done this..

In short one man's God is another's Satan.

The only determining factor is to whom you want to worship, and with Whom you want to spend your portion of eternity.

That's a red herring, the problem at issue isn't which deity to worship. The issue is:

Christians show that Jesus Christ is God and not a devil or demon inspired false prophet.

So do you concede that Yahweh didn't inspire Jesus and the devil did?

[Nope]

Christians often act as though their god is not omnipotent. If their god really knows the choices people will make then there is no reason to cause so many people to suffer. There is no point to anything their god does. It is like they are worshipping Jigsaw from the Saw series

[Brakeman]

Probably didn't matter to them because Satan always obeyed Jesus and god. Nowhere in the bible that I'm aware of is found a single action of satanic disobedience.

Well, eventually if you keep reading the bible you will get to the last book call 'Revelation.' This whole book centers around satanic disobedience.

I've read it before, albeit a good while ago. I don't recall any such passages. Care to point to a couple of verses that show Satan actually doing something that god told him not to do? The battle shit doesn't really fit because god must have told him to do that since he already knows in advance the outcome. It could only be a farce battle. Satan himself would have no motive to do so.

[Pizza]

Haha nice. I did a topic before where I asked people to prove that Satan didn't write the bible. It was barely challenged, and some people even said they didn't care if it was. Amazing.

Probably didn't matter to them because Satan always obeyed Jesus and god. Nowhere in the bible that I'm aware of is found a single action of satanic disobedience.

I'm not talking about the Christian devil. It could be any being analogous to a devil, even a trickster god.