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RE: Indiana's Govenor Signs 'Religious Freedom' Bill
April 1, 2015 at 9:15 am
Ahem, 
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RE: Indiana's Govenor Signs 'Religious Freedom' Bill
April 1, 2015 at 9:25 am
As long as the law permits me to turn down the holy roller in the car crash to an accident involving someone whose religious status is closer to my own ..
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RE: Indiana's Govenor Signs 'Religious Freedom' Bill
April 1, 2015 at 9:34 am
The Satanists need to argue that they want to discriminate against Christians based on their religious beliefs. Then we could watch the Christians get whiplash from the 180 they pull.
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RE: Indiana's Govenor Signs 'Religious Freedom' Bill
April 1, 2015 at 10:26 am
(April 1, 2015 at 9:34 am)Faith No More Wrote: The Satanists need to argue that they want to discriminate against Christians based on their religious beliefs. Then we could watch the Christians get whiplash from the 180 they pull.
Nonsense. As True Christians ™, we can always exercise our rights to bully and persecute others and cry "persecution" when anyone tries the same thing on us. As our Lord Jesus said, "Do unto others what you would not have them do unto you because ye are just so special" or something to that effect.
After all, this is a Christian nation, founded by Lord Jesus Christ himself (praise). That means we can enact our religious laws while forbidding the imposition of Sharia and do so without the slightest sense of irony.
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RE: Indiana's Govenor Signs 'Religious Freedom' Bill
April 1, 2015 at 10:31 am
YITW! It's been a while! You fundy bastard, you!
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RE: Indiana's Govenor Signs 'Religious Freedom' Bill
April 2, 2015 at 8:49 am
(April 1, 2015 at 9:25 am)whateverist Wrote: As long as the law permits me to turn down the holy roller in the car crash to an accident involving someone whose religious status is closer to my own ..
The key point of law that applies is "compelling state interest." The state has a compelling interest in protecting the lives of its citizens. I fail to see how using the power of government to force a baker to make a cake for someone's wedding is a compelling state interest. Why cry "mommy mommy" to the government instead of taking your business elsewhere.
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RE: Indiana's Govenor Signs 'Religious Freedom' Bill
April 2, 2015 at 8:52 am
Ah, then by that reasoning you'd be fine with the bakery turning away all african americans if they could connect it with their religion?
(And we tried the "just let the market decide" thing in the 60s)
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RE: Indiana's Govenor Signs 'Religious Freedom' Bill
April 2, 2015 at 9:17 am
Hamites and Canaanites are negroes. And God has cursed them with the dark skin and flattened noses.
Book of Mormon, Pearl of Great Price, and Doctrines and Covenants are EXTREMELY clear. All white people will be exalted in heaven before a single person with even one drop of Hamite blood in their veins will be.
The back of the bus thing applies in Mormon heaven.
LDS may claim racial tolerance these days, but their liberalization was accomplished by executive fiat (they didn't even bother to use their standard 'revelation from God' routine, and their scriptures, dogma, edicts, and strictures remain unchanged. While they may risk excommunication because of that executive fiat, Mormons in Indiana would have a VERY strong case for denying services in Indiana because of all their sacred writings.
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RE: Indiana's Govenor Signs 'Religious Freedom' Bill
April 2, 2015 at 10:26 am
(April 2, 2015 at 9:17 am)vorlon13 Wrote: Hamites and Canaanites are negroes. And God has cursed them with the dark skin and flattened noses.
Book of Mormon, Pearl of Great Price, and Doctrines and Covenants are EXTREMELY clear. All white people will be exalted in heaven before a single person with even one drop of Hamite blood in their veins will be.
The back of the bus thing applies in Mormon heaven.
LDS may claim racial tolerance these days, but their liberalization was accomplished by executive fiat (they didn't even bother to use their standard 'revelation from God' routine, and their scriptures, dogma, edicts, and strictures remain unchanged. While they may risk excommunication because of that executive fiat, Mormons in Indiana would have a VERY strong case for denying services in Indiana because of all their sacred writings.
Exactly the example that keeps coming to mind for me. If religious freedom includes the right to discriminate against others, then Mormons can throw out their 1978 edict and return to discriminating against people of dark skin (as the African descent thing was a later justification for the church so they could go proselytize in "dark-skinned" Polynesian countries).
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RE: Indiana's Govenor Signs 'Religious Freedom' Bill
April 2, 2015 at 10:41 am
(April 2, 2015 at 8:52 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Ah, then by that reasoning you'd be fine with the bakery turning away all african american... Never. The black experience in America isn't even remotely comparable to homosexuality. I've never heard of institutionalised gay slavery. Have you. Did gays ever have to use separate water fountains and swimming pools. Don't think so.
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