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About Islam
#11
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If God existed, don't you think he can talk/write in a way much higher then possibility of a human doing so?
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#12
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What do you mean by this ?
Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!
~George Carlin
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#13
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(April 18, 2015 at 4:49 pm)Etrius Wrote: What do you mean by this ?

I can't write as good as the author of Harry Potter or the Lord of the rings. A lot of people can't. Some people can write really good books somewhat on par with them or even better.

Don't you think if God existed, he can make a literature that is well beyond the capability of humans?
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#14
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So you are telling me, that right now, say you, or any other person you know, would be totally incapable of writing a story, a big one, where there is a man with unreal and unknown powers, that tries to rule over a world of other, simpler creatures? And no other person on earth has a sufficient imagination for that? Of all the writers we have, and had, of all the brilliant minds, nobody, could make up a story that simple ?

And wait. Your argument, to prove a god, a religion, is that only god has imagination? While man doesn't ?

Sorry, but I'm not buying this.
Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!
~George Carlin
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#15
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I didn't say that. That's a straw man. Look at what I stated closely and try to perhaps answer the question.
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#16
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(April 18, 2015 at 2:04 am)Etrius Wrote: Hi everyone.
So I became an Atheist recently. And I'm just making a quick study on most widely spread religions. Could anyone just give me a few "Hints" what is the Quaran about, and the basic ideas of Islam. Just so I can make a general Image of the entire thing.

Thank you all, sorry if post in wrong place or something.

What's to know? It is merely God software and the third version so far of the Abraham 3.0. If you want details you'd have to ask someone who has detailed knowledge of it, but to me that is like asking someone how much they know about the Harry Potter books. How much of a Superman movie do you have to watch realize it is just a movie?
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#17
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Ok. So here's your question.

"Don't you think if God existed, he can make a literature that is well beyond the capability of humans?"

So you want me to say that god would probably be a better writer than humans. Isn't that a silly thing to say ? Or a silly question for you to ask ?

Out of which results, again, I repeat myself, your argument for god, is that he is probably better at making up stories?

Escuse me, but again, that IS silly. I don't mean to offend you or something. I don't at all. It's just that I asked for one good reason to believe, or any evidence.

(April 18, 2015 at 5:06 pm)Etrius Wrote: Ok. So here's your question.

"Don't you think if God existed, he can make a literature that is well beyond the capability of humans?"

So you want me to say that god would probably be a better writer than humans. Isn't that a silly thing to say ? Or a silly question for you to ask ?

Out of which results, again, I repeat myself, your argument for god, is that he is probably better at making up stories?


Excuse me, but again, that IS silly. I don't mean to offend you or something. I don't at all. It's just that I asked for one good reason to believe, or any evidence.
Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!
~George Carlin
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#18
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(April 18, 2015 at 5:06 pm)Etrius Wrote: Ok. So here's your question.
"Don't you think if God existed, he can make a literature that is well beyond the capability of humans?"
So you want me to say that god would probably be a better writer than humans. Isn't that a silly thing to say ? Or a silly question for you to ask ?
Out of which results, again, I repeat myself, your argument for god, is that he is probably better at making up stories?
I'm not arguing for God right now or Islam. All I'm asking do you think it's logical for God to be able to write literature at a higher level then humans such that no human can come close to it in eloquence?
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#19
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(April 18, 2015 at 4:51 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(April 18, 2015 at 4:49 pm)Etrius Wrote: What do you mean by this ?

I can't write as good as the author of Harry Potter or the Lord of the rings. A lot of people can't. Some people can write really good books somewhat on par with them or even better.

Don't you think if God existed, he can make a literature that is well beyond the capability of humans?

Of course he could, which would make him cruel, or inept. Why would you do that to someone? Thats like pulling someone off the street who has no training and expecting them to fly the space shuttle. 

It makes no sense to me knowing the earth is 4 billion years old, for an all powerful god to wait billions of years to even start life, then millions more to get to humans, hundreds of thousands of years to get to the point of being able to write, then resort to humans writing the book for you when the entire universe was "poofed" into existence. Only to use humans over centuries to write these books and fight and kill over them. Hardly seems efficient.

If this god character ran a bicycle factory the bikes would end up with squid for spokes and the workers would murder each other over how to read the assembly manual. The good thing is such a character does not exist. The bad news is humans believe he does and are willing to kill over a fictional sky hero.
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#20
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No.

Remember one rule of a debate. Never ask a question like:
"Don't you think ..." .
"No I don't". And that's it, you lose your argument.

No, I don't. Because I don't believe in any god, in the first place. And then again,it all started with me asking you ABOUT any "good reason" to believe.
Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!
~George Carlin
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