About Islam

[Brian37]

My proof is not about it being a prophecy, it just happens to be a prophecy that occurs today, it's not clearly decisive. Just wait to see what I have to say.

Waiting, but don't be shocked when we finally pick your crap apart.

You don't understand that "prophecy" is not a unique claim to Islam or the Koran, Christians make those claims out of the bible too. The Ancient Greeks and R"romans had "oracles" who made prophecy too. Look up Apollo and Casandra.

They are literary devices in literature that work the same way horoscopes work in retrofitting. It works only if the person wants to take that ambiguous statement and can apply to anyone in a multitude of situations given a long enough period of time.

[Foxaèr]

The stupidest thing you need to know about Islam: no bacon.

[Polaris]

You can't drink. Too bad for my friends that wanted me to become Moslem that I found the love of the drink during the same time.

[paulpablo]

The quran is a book written in one language, Arabic.
The book is full of poetry and local idiomatic expressions which make no sense literally.  For example expressions such as "Whom the right hand possess." And "Drink the calf into their hearts."
The book does not give the impression as a final message to mankind. The book is mainly concerned with local disputes.  There's an entire chapter(al masad) dedicated to an uncle (who Muhammad didn't like) being sent to hell.  It includes idioms and seems poetic again and basically doesn't make much sense to the reader unless you already know who the characters are from other information sources besides the quran.

You won't ever be able to argue points with Muslims as a whole about specific topics concerning the quran because Muslims themselves, even the ones who speak arabic fluently, don't agree with what the quran says.

And to save you sometime on the miracles of the quran, there are none that would stand up in court.  If you're curious about them though then they are worth a look.

[Brian37]

The stupidest thing you need to know about Islam: no bacon.

Um Jews don't eat pork either. Hindu's don't eat cow. A real doctor might tell you to change your diet if you have a medical condition and certainly there are proper ways of cooking all those meats so you don't get sick, but religious reasons for not eating something are just flat out stupid.

[Etrius]

The only "profecy" that was actually right, is "time will come"

When they say "time will come and blah blah and mountains will burn and blah blah blah ..."

The only true thing in all the profecies is about time coming ang going without an end. Which is pretty well explained by Einstein's Space-Time theory, if you need more of that stuff.

As Brian said, profecies are just a "tool" in order to make people believe. And if any of them come true once in a few houndred years, it is a simple coincidence.

Look around. Christians are waiting for 2000 years, Muslims for more than 1350. Other may have been waiting for 3 or 4 thousands. It doesn't matter. The only thing that occured is time. Nothing else stated in any religion truly happens, except for a few coincidences here and there.

And again. There is NO evidence for it. Except for a book, or some more books, that don't actually prove anything. A book about Leprechauns doesn't prove their existence, now matter how awesome and unusual that literature is. IT IS NOT A PROOF. And you know it.

[robvalue]

I don't give a crap if the whole book is one giant prophecy which keeps on giving. It doesn't prove how the authors knew that information. That, my friend, is where the argument from ignorance comes in. Again. I wonder if apologists could ever actually finish a sentence if that fallacy was blotted out from reality.

[Etrius]

A book doesn't prove anything. It's just a book...
Religious people think they have the best argument, God. They think it's the ultimate word. But it's not. They actually have no evidence. Not even one, single, banal, stupid proof. And they still believe, they stull buy all the crap. It just shows that they are not only ignorant towards themselves, but towards anything in this world, as they are ready to believe and say something, without an argument, without a strong base. This only believes that deep inside thay don't actually care what religion or idea it is, they simply are afraid of being wrong.
So they take the easy path:"Oh, it's true because, you know, God said so and everything... So it must be true..."
This total dumbness is what makes me angry, it makes me angry on humanity...

[robvalue]

Otherwise intelligent people can turn into a playground child when you bring up certain subjects, religion being the main one. Suddenly it's "You can't prove I don't have an invisible friend!" and "No, you are!"

[ReptilianPeon]

If you want to discuss Muhammad's religion there's the Jinn and Tonic Show on Google Hangouts at 6PM U.T.C. every Sunday. It's a two hour show. And, after an introductory segment, viewers can freely join the show and pose questions to the panel (one of the hosts is an ex-Shia Iranian/American) and other people who join. Sometimes they have famous people on to talk: For example, a last month they had Dr. Arif Ahmed from Cambridge University on the show.

Edit: I'll have a better look at the topic later and maybe quote some Quran verses I've found.