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Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE
April 27, 2015 at 4:26 pm
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RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE
April 27, 2015 at 4:41 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews
Quote:In an ethnic sense, an Ashkenazi Jew is one whose ancestry can be traced to the Jews who settled in Central Europe. For roughly a thousand years, the Ashkenazim were a reproductively isolated population in Europe, despite living in many countries, with little inflow or outflow from migration, conversion, or intermarriage with other groups, including other Jews. Human geneticists have argued that genetic variations have been identified that show high frequencies among Ashkenazi Jews, but not in the general European population, be they for patrilineal markers (Y-chromosome haplotypes) and for matrilineal markers (mitotypes).[92] However, a 2013 study of Ashkenazi mitochondrial DNA, from the University of Huddersfield in England, suggests that at least 80 percent of the Ashkenazi maternal lineages derive from the assimilation of mtDNAs indigenous to Europe, probably as a consequence of conversion.[93]
Since the middle of the 20th century, many Ashkenazi Jews have intermarried, both with members of other Jewish communities and with people of other nations and faiths, while some Jews have also adopted children from other ethnic groups or from other parts of the world and have raised them as Jews. Conversion to Judaism, rare for nearly 2,000 years, has become more common.[94]
A 2006 study found Ashkenazi Jews to be a clear, homogeneous genetic subgroup. Strikingly, regardless of the place of origin, Ashkenazi Jews can be grouped in the same genetic cohort – that is, regardless of whether an Ashkenazi Jew's ancestors came from Poland, Russia, Hungary, Lithuania, or any other place with a historical Jewish population, they belong to the same ethnic group. The research demonstrates the endogamy of the Jewish population in Europe and lends further credence to the idea of Ashkenazi Jews as an ethnic group. Moreover, though intermarriage among Jews of Ashkenazi descent has become increasingly common, many Haredi Jews, particularly members of Hasidic or Hareidi sects, continue to marry exclusively fellow Ashkenazi Jews. This trend keeps Ashkenazi genes prevalent and also helps researchers further study the genes of Ashkenazi Jews with relative ease. It is noteworthy that these Haredi Jews often have extremely large families.
Sorry Brian. I know you want to criticize Jews, and feel free to do so, but that doesn't erase the fact they are a racial group as much as whites, blacks and asians.
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RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE
April 27, 2015 at 4:45 pm
No stop it, Jew is a religion not a race Just
This is a Muslim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjQc2ic8Wfo
And this is a Muslim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGGnG3lvKIg
I WAS limited to the videos I could put in one post, I AM NOT SINGLING OUT JEWS.
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RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE
April 27, 2015 at 4:47 pm
So what about you refute my wiki quote (which has references to sources so it's not like it's an invalid source)? Why should Jews be any less racial group than whites? Whites wouldn't be a racial group if they hadn't discovered blacks and needed to feel superior
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RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE
April 27, 2015 at 4:49 pm
I know Ashkenazi Jews who are atheists.
What does that make them?
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RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE
April 27, 2015 at 4:55 pm
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'Race' is only a colloquial term to begin with and has little to no meaning scientifically
Ethnic group would be more accurate
In my native tongue, names for believers are spelled with a lower case letter and names for ethnicities with a capital letter, so Jew means a Jew ethnically and jew religiously
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RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE
April 27, 2015 at 4:59 pm
Brian, I am white according to the social concept of race, people in Germany are way blonder, whiter and taller than me - They're also white. Slavs are different than western Europeans, but they are white. Members of ethnic groups are diverse. I'm sure you can find maybe 100 (or 1000?) black/african ethnic groups. the fact some Jews are different is irrelevant.
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RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE
April 27, 2015 at 5:05 pm
(April 27, 2015 at 4:55 pm)Neimenovic Wrote: 'Race' is only a colloquial term to begin with and has little to no meaning scientifically
Ethnic group would be more accurate
In my native tongue, names for believers are spelled with a lower case letter and names for ethnicities with a capital letters, so Jew means a Jew ethnically and jew religiously
NO damn it I am tired of this crap.
Our skin tones and facial features are genetic. Everything else are labels we hide behind. Trace all humans back far enough and WE ARE ALL RELATED.
"Jew" is a religion and "Islam" is a religion and "Buddhist" is ALSO a religion.
Religion is what creates racism.
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RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE
April 27, 2015 at 5:11 pm
(April 27, 2015 at 5:05 pm)Brian37 Wrote: NO damn it I am tired of this crap.
Our skin tones and facial features are genetic. Everything else are labels we hide behind. Trace all humans back far enough and WE ARE ALL RELATED.
"Jew" is a religion and "Islam" is a religion and "Buddhist" is ALSO a religion.
Religion is what creates racism.
Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean
Are you disagreeing or agreeing that race is only colloquial? Or are you saying Jews aren't an ethnicity?
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RE: Jew/Muslim are religions NOT A RACE
April 27, 2015 at 5:38 pm
(April 27, 2015 at 5:05 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Trace all humans back far enough and WE ARE ALL RELATED.
True, but that doesn't negate the fact that since then, humans have diversified into different "races" or "ethnic groups", whichever term you prefer. To deny that humans who have lived in entirely different habitats for thousands of years haven't evolved into distinct sub-groups is to deny some basic facts about evolution.
Race is not just about skin tones and facial features. It goes further, for example the fact that vastly more people in Asian / African countries are lactose intolerant when compared to European countries is explained by race.
You also seem to confuse the two meanings of the word "Jew". A "Jew" is either someone who is a descendant of the ancient Israelites, or a person who follows the religion of Judaism (and can be both).
You are correct concerning the term "Muslim" though. There is no "Muslim" race.
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