Another "I saw Jesus" claim

[Mudhammam]

And before the "J" was invented their boy was called Iesou....a fact which annoys fundies no end because they literally think he first name was jesus and his last name was christ.

I've never met a fundamentalist who did not know that Jesus' name was spelled and pronounced differently in the Hebrew (Yeshua) and Greek (Iesous) tongues, respectively. But go ahead and proceed to pat yourself on the back, I guess?

[Mudhammam]

Correction: On second thought I have met one - Wyrd of Gawd

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Considering that Jesus ended up nailed to wood and that the figure is displayed almost everywhere it seems to be a valid metaphor.  Jesus has become the premier wooden idol.

But that's rather because the writers of the bible knew cruzifixion to be the most dishonering form of Roman executions. It fit nicely into the legend they constructed.

In the Babylonian Talmud the Jews brag about how they killed Jesus using five (5) different methods.  They were really ticked off.

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Thanks for verifying that the Jesus character is imaginary and that he was created in the 17th Century.  If he had been an actual person with all of his reputed attributes there wouldn't have been any reason whatsoever to change his name.  

Are you familiar with philology and etymology? Difference languages, which are always changing, often use different words to mean similar things. And created in the 17th century? Most of the things you say are utterly ridiculous, it's almost funny, and worse, you never substantiate them with a single source. The only people who do that as much as you are believers. It's almost funny, I said, because it's mostly just flat out embarrassing.

Since we are fully grown adults people should be educated about the subjects that they comment about.  Educated English speakers should know that there were no written "J" words before the 17th Century.  Consequentially it's silly to post links about that every time it's cited.  Now what were the real names of those "John" characters that "Jesus" hung out with?  

[Mudhammam]

Since we are fully grown adults people should be educated about the subjects that they comment about.  Educated English speakers should know that there were no written "J" words before the 17th Century.  Consequentially it's silly to post links about that every time it's cited.  Now what were the real names of those "John" characters that "Jesus" hung out with?  

How is that even a serious question? What were the "real" names of those "Jupiter," "Juno," or "Julius" Caesar characters? Almost everything you write leads me to suspect that you may be borderline mentally impaired (no disrespect meant to the mentally impaired).

[Cyberman]

It's an interesting claim, wyrd. As a logophile I'd be delighted to see a source for it.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Since we are fully grown adults people should be educated about the subjects that they comment about.  Educated English speakers should know that there were no written "J" words before the 17th Century.  Consequentially it's silly to post links about that every time it's cited.  Now what were the real names of those "John" characters that "Jesus" hung out with?  

How is that even a serious question? What were the "real" names of those "Jupiter," "Juno," or "Julius" Caesar characters? Almost everything you write leads me to suspect that you may be borderline mentally impaired (no disrespect meant to the mentally impaired).

As you now realize your island is rapidly shrinking.  You have no name for the "John" characters.  Consequently your ideas about them are totally skewed by your impression of what modern day Johns are like.  When the writers gave the "Jesus" character the name of "Jesus" they gave him a completely new identity that the one the original con man gave him.  So if someone claims to have seen"Jesus" they are saying that they saw a completely imaginary character.  "Jesus" didn't exist 2,000 years ago.  He's only about 400 years old.  

[Mudhammam]

As you now realize your island is rapidly shrinking.  You have no name for the "John" characters.  Consequently your ideas about them are totally skewed by your impression of what modern day Johns are like.  When the writers gave the "Jesus" character the name of "Jesus" they gave him a completely new identity that the one the original con man gave him.  So if someone claims to have seen"Jesus" they are saying that they saw a completely imaginary character.  "Jesus" didn't exist 2,000 years ago.  He's only about 400 years old.  

LOL. If you had read the posts at the top of this page, you'd have seen that I already gave an example of what Jesus' name would have been in the Greek: ησοῦς or Iēsous. John would have been ωάννης or Iōannēs. What "new identity" are you talking about? Are you saying nobody that we, using modern English, identity with a "J" in their name existed until 400 years ago? You can't be this fucking dumb... then again I'm not holding out much hope to the contrary.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

It's an interesting claim, wyrd. As a logophile I'd be delighted to see a source for it.

From Wiki = The Italian Giorgio Trissino was the first to use the letter "J" i a document in 1524.

The first English language book to use the letter "J" was in 1633.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J

From Dictionary.com = word origin and history for J, j.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/%20J?s=t

Therefore it's obvious that "Jesus" didn't exist before then.

[Mudhammam]

As a logophile I'd be delighted to see a source for it.

Don't hold your breath.

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Therefore it's obvious that "Jesus" didn't exist before then.

So you actually are claiming that Gaius Julius Caesar didn't exist until 1633?

[Minimalist]

And before the "J" was invented their boy was called Iesou....a fact which annoys fundies no end because they literally think he first name was jesus and his last name was christ.

I've never met a fundamentalist who did not know that Jesus' name was spelled and pronounced differently in the Hebrew (Yeshua) and Greek (Iesous) tongues, respectively. But go ahead and proceed to pat yourself on the back, I guess?

You need to get out more.