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RE: Did God just admit to his followers that he's a psychopath?
May 22, 2015 at 1:34 pm
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(May 22, 2015 at 11:54 am)Lek Wrote: (May 21, 2015 at 4:42 pm)IanHulett Wrote: So, I was watching a video by The Messianic Manic. Apparently God admitted to being a psychopath guys.
Isaiah 45:7 "The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing well-being and creating calamity; I am the LORD who does all these."
So, did I just read that God admitted with pride, that he is actually a sadistic evil psychopath who doesn't deserve the amount of followers he has? Hmm... and some of them say WE'RE the ones deceived by satan. Yeah, I think they should reexamine that argument.
The bible verse is true about God, but your statement is a matter of your opinion. If you were all so loving and caring, you wouldn't purposely bring children into this terrible world knowing that they will have to suffer, but you do it anyway. You have the power to keep them from suffering by not bringing them here, but you allow it to happen--you evil psychopaths!!!
A psychopath is someone who lacks empathy and takes pleasure in hurting others. If God truly had empathy for his people, he wouldn't have created evil in the first place, nor would he send people to hell. But he does, so he's a psychopath. Of course, this is if he were real, which he's not.
If pinkie pie isn't real, then how do you explain the existence of ponies, huh? If ponies are real, then that's proof that Pinkie Pie is real. Checkmate, christians!
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RE: Did God just admit to his followers that he's a psychopath?
May 22, 2015 at 1:40 pm
(May 22, 2015 at 12:14 pm)Lek Wrote: (May 22, 2015 at 11:59 am)Chad32 Wrote: Yet when we bring them into the world, those of us who care for them do what it takes to maximize their joy while minimizing their suffering. We can't protect them from everything because we're not all powerful, yet your god supposedly is. And apparently your god is fine with bringing people into this world, and letting them die before they even get out of the womb.
A big reason why we bring children into the world is because we are driven to have sex. That's what keeps the species going. yet we're called immoral by some if we use birth control or have abortions. If I wanted to do what comes naturally with someone who already exists, why would you judge me for trying to avoid getting someone pregnant, or encouraging her to abort if she does?
I don't judge you for your decision and I don't judge God for his. I just live in this world the way it is according to God's will.
That's very thoughtful of you. If only every christian was like that, but unfortunately they aren't.
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RE: Did God just admit to his followers that he's a psychopath?
May 22, 2015 at 1:51 pm
(May 22, 2015 at 11:54 am)Lek Wrote: ... If you were all so loving and caring, you wouldn't purposely bring children into this terrible world knowing that they will have to suffer, but you do it anyway. You have the power to keep them from suffering by not bringing them here, but you allow it to happen--you evil psychopaths!!!
I have not brought any children into the world. One of the reasons is, I think the world is an unfit place for children. God is an evil psychopath. Or would be, if he existed and created this mess.
As for others, many people have a failure of birth control, and also many of them try to do the best they can for the children they produce. That makes them very different from God. God does not do the best he can for the beings he created, as he could (if omnipotent) prevent all of their pain and suffering. Parents don't prevent it all because they can't. So your comparison is ridiculous and unjust.
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RE: Did God just admit to his followers that he's a psychopath?
May 22, 2015 at 2:02 pm
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(May 22, 2015 at 11:54 am)Lek Wrote: (May 21, 2015 at 4:42 pm)IanHulett Wrote: So, I was watching a video by The Messianic Manic. Apparently God admitted to being a psychopath guys.
Isaiah 45:7 "The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing well-being and creating calamity; I am the LORD who does all these."
So, did I just read that God admitted with pride, that he is actually a sadistic evil psychopath who doesn't deserve the amount of followers he has? Hmm... and some of them say WE'RE the ones deceived by satan. Yeah, I think they should reexamine that argument.
The bible verse is true about God, but your statement is a matter of your opinion. If you were all so loving and caring, you wouldn't purposely bring children into this terrible world knowing that they will have to suffer, but you do it anyway. You have the power to keep them from suffering by not bringing them here, but you allow it to happen--you evil psychopaths!!!
First of all, your image of god is of an all knowing, all powerful deity. I am an average person without any special powers. Second, the world is still the same place regardless of whether your god is real or not so if atheists are cruel for having children then Christians are also cruel to have children.
In order for your idea of god to be comparable to a human parent, I would have to refuse to talk to my child or let her see me. If she was attacked in front of me, I would have to be silent during her suffering and do nothing to help her even though I had the power to do help. Afterwards, I would send a note telling her that she should forgive her attacker and love me.
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RE: Did God just admit to his followers that he's a psychopath?
May 22, 2015 at 3:01 pm
I love it when Christians turn to the parent metaphor. Their god, by our feeble standards, is a reprehensible parent. A deadbeat dad who more often than not simply destroys whenever he bothers to show up. But, he's given a free pass by the faithful because of the tired, moronic "He's omniscient/mysterious ways" BS, which is only presented in a book that spirals down the drain of circular logic.
Christians really can't grasp how despicable that line of defense is.
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RE: Did God just admit to his followers that he's a psychopath?
May 22, 2015 at 10:34 pm
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(May 22, 2015 at 1:23 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Surely an omnipotent god who is alleged to be good could alleviate suffering and do away with evil.
Our perspective is much different depending on whether or not we believe in eternal life. If life is eternal, then life here is not even a blip on the radar screen. If you believe that this life on earth is all we have, then I can be more understanding of you opinion of God. God obviously wanted the possibility of evil to exist since he gave us a free will and created the "tempter". He also wanted there to be suffering here because he created killer storms and diseases and so on. I look at suffering as probably what we go through to form us into the type of people we are to be throughout eternity. I don't know that this is true, but it's possible that those who suffer more here will will enjoy eternity more. If you want to be a US Marine, you must go through rigorous training and pass numerous tests, as you are formed into what it takes to be a marine. This is true of other things that we strive for. God is forming us to be the people we will be for eternity. I don't view suffering itself as evil, nor do I consider God as evil because he causes us to live in an environment in which we suffer. As I pointed out earlier, we purposely bring children into this world knowing that they will suffer. We could use birth control, and still have our sexual pleasure, without purposely bringing poor little children into this world of suffering, but we know that there are a lot of worthwhile and enjoyable experiences here and good reasons to be living here. God also gave us the power and the freedom of choice to make the world a better place. If we truly loved our neighbors as Jesus told us to do, we could alleviate hunger and much disease and suffering, but too many of us don't love our neighbors. That's the way God made it to be. I don't worry about why he made it this way. I'm just confidently living my life under his guidance, knowing that this is just a blip on the screen.
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RE: Did God just admit to his followers that he's a psychopath?
May 23, 2015 at 1:20 am
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(May 22, 2015 at 10:34 pm)Lek Wrote: (May 22, 2015 at 1:23 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Surely an omnipotent god who is alleged to be good could alleviate suffering and do away with evil.
Our perspective is much different depending on whether or not we believe in eternal life. If life is eternal, then life here is not even a blip on the radar screen. If you believe that this life on earth is all we have, then I can be more understanding of you opinion of God. God obviously wanted the possibility of evil to exist since he gave us a free will and created the "tempter". He also wanted there to be suffering here because he created killer storms and diseases and so on. I look at suffering as probably what we go through to form us into the type of people we are to be throughout eternity. I don't know that this is true, but it's possible that those who suffer more here will will enjoy eternity more. If you want to be a US Marine, you must go through rigorous training and pass numerous tests, as you are formed into what it takes to be a marine. This is true of other things that we strive for. God is forming us to be the people we will be for eternity. I don't view suffering itself as evil, nor do I consider God as evil because he causes us to live in an environment in which we suffer. As I pointed out earlier, we purposely bring children into this world knowing that they will suffer. We could use birth control, and still have our sexual pleasure, without purposely bringing poor little children into this world of suffering, but we know that there are a lot of worthwhile and enjoyable experiences here and good reasons to be living here. God also gave us the power and the freedom of choice to make the world a better place. If we truly loved our neighbors as Jesus told us to do, we could alleviate hunger and much disease and suffering, but too many of us don't love our neighbors. That's the way God made it to be. I don't worry about why he made it this way. I'm just confidently living my life under his guidance, knowing that this is just a blip on the screen.
god is a psychopath the end. Nothing you can say will change the fact that god of the bible is a evil dictator. god of the bible goes against his own word with Noah and has him slaughter people even after stating thou shall not kill. The thing is with humans in general as of now we are still limited to what we can do because culturally and religion plays a huge key factor into this and all in all its money and resource problem at that. Rich people really don't care about the third world they could do things but do some do sure its better than nothing. Even still religion really does hold a place on the third world to keep itself from advancing. The middle east they are still held back from scientific advancements because of their religion. Again religion really does play a role in how people act. In general i noticed with this christians they don't really give a fuck about anyone until they are down and are vulnerable and able to convert them all in all its not real help.
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RE: Did God just admit to his followers that he's a psychopath?
May 23, 2015 at 3:26 am
The character as portrayed is actually far worse than any dictator our race could produce. Human dictators tend to stop oppressing and torturing when their victims stop living. This bastard just doesn't know when to quit.
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RE: Did God just admit to his followers that he's a psychopath?
May 23, 2015 at 8:25 am
(May 22, 2015 at 10:34 pm)Lek Wrote: (May 22, 2015 at 1:23 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Surely an omnipotent god who is alleged to be good could alleviate suffering and do away with evil.
As I pointed out earlier, we purposely bring children into this world knowing that they will suffer. We could use birth control, and still have our sexual pleasure, without purposely bringing poor little children into this world of suffering, but we know that there are a lot of worthwhile and enjoyable experiences here and good reasons to be living here. God also gave us the power and the freedom of choice to make the world a better place. If we truly loved our neighbors as Jesus told us to do, we could alleviate hunger and much disease and suffering, but too many of us don't love our neighbors. That's the way God made it to be. I don't worry about why he made it this way. I'm just confidently living my life under his guidance, knowing that this is just a blip on the screen.
But why would a Christian bring children into this world knowing that they will suffer? The world is the same place for atheists and Christians. Perhaps I missed it but did someone claim that the world was mainly a place of suffering? So far my life has been overall happy. There have been some amazing highs and some deep lows but for the most part, my life has been good. I expect that my children will have similar lives but not being all knowing, I can't say for certain. If I have the resources, why wouldn't I have children?
There is a lot in the bible about helping the poor. Even the Old Testament talks harshly of wealthy people who don't take care of those in needs. Many Christians ignore these passages while focusing on very negative versus. My guess is that it is easier to judge and hate than to take the time to help someone.
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RE: Did God just admit to his followers that he's a psychopath?
May 23, 2015 at 8:29 am
This life is just a blip on the radar, yet it's supposed to determine the rest of eternity somehow. Using faulty information, we have to figure out who the correct god is, if one even exists, and how to properly worship it, all to avoid spending the rest of eternity in a nightmare. That makes no sense.
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