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May 24, 2015 at 5:16 pm
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(May 24, 2015 at 10:20 am)Randy Carson Wrote: (May 22, 2015 at 2:03 pm)Faith No More Wrote: I especially like this part...
If god so easily forgives you for liking dick, why were prattling on about how bad it is in the first place?
If God so easily forgives you for raping children or killing your spouse, why is anyone prattling on about how bad it is in the first place?
God will forgive you, so go ahead and have your fun.
The irony of a Catholic using child-rape as an example of god-forgiven immorality would be hilarious if it was not so fucking sickening.
Do you still put money in the collection plate?
Do you still support those molesters?
Matthew 7:16, buddy ... and you're fruit of the same tree. Don't you ever forget that. You supported child-molesters.
(May 24, 2015 at 12:23 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: (May 24, 2015 at 12:07 pm)Faith No More Wrote: He should worry because I'm going to teach him that what is important is making restitution and learning from his mistakes, not my forgiveness, which is the opposite of what the bible teaches.
You must have a different translation from the one I have.
In another thread, you are arguing that mistranslation doesn't affect the message of the bible, and that you know this because you've read the original in Greek.
Now you're agreeing that there are various translations which give rise to errors.
(May 24, 2015 at 12:40 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: (May 24, 2015 at 11:46 am)Randy Carson Wrote: If your son intentionally throws a baseball through a window, it is objectively wrong. But why should he worry when he knows you will forgive him eventually? Mom and Dad aren't going to throw him out of the house for a window.
If that kid's parents were like god, not only would they throw him out of the house, they'd curse him and all his progeny to a life of pain and suffering.
... and then stuff him in the oven for the rest of time.
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May 24, 2015 at 5:33 pm
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(May 24, 2015 at 12:53 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: God bless 'em, they mean well. And they think they are doing you a kindness.
I apologize to you, SC, on behalf of boorish Christians everywhere. Both you and God deserve a better witness than we have given you.
No. Actually, fuck them. I don't care whether they mean well or not. Don't threaten me or my family with death and torture because we don't believe in your fairy tale. And then tell me it's done "in love."
The attitude underneath is what is enraging. The attitude that a person knows what's best for everyone and will tell you whether asked or not because a book written by stone age goat herders told them so.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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May 24, 2015 at 9:12 pm
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(May 24, 2015 at 5:16 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Do you still put money in the collection plate?
Of course.
Quote:Do you still support those molesters?
It would be correct to say that I never did support them.
How old are you, Parker? You reason like a child. Let me show you how stupid your reasoning is.
I'm an American, and I am a supporter of the American military. It has a job to do defending freedom around the world, and I wish them success because no one else is going to do the dirty work that needs to be done to bring that freedom to those who don't have it.
But does that mean that if a few soldiers get out of line and massacre some civilians (My Lai) (Google it if you have to) that I am going to be supportive of them, also? Or if their commanding officers try to cover up the massacre, I'll support them, too? Of course not. Soldiers who commit war crimes should be punished. Officers and civilians involved in the cover-up need to be prosecuted, also. But I still support the VAST majority of our service men and women who serve their country honorably.
What percentage of Catholic priests have molested altar boys, Parker? Why am I even asking? You get your news from Reddit and Steven Colbert. About 1%. Which is HALF - maybe a THIRD - of the percentage of teachers who abuse children in the public schools.
So, let me be clear: priests who molested children need to go to prison. Bishops who covered this up need to go into retirement. But I still support the VAST majority of the deacons, priests Bishops, and religious (male and female) who serve our Lord and His Church honorably.
Now, why don't you log off, find a good book, and try to learn something before bedtime?
It's not a school night for you...you can stay up a little later, and you clearly have a lot of catching up to do.
(May 24, 2015 at 5:33 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: (May 24, 2015 at 12:53 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: God bless 'em, they mean well. And they think they are doing you a kindness.
I apologize to you, SC, on behalf of boorish Christians everywhere. Both you and God deserve a better witness than we have given you.
No. Actually, fuck them. I don't care whether they mean well or not. Don't threaten me or my family with death and torture because we don't believe in your fairy tale. And then tell me it's done "in love."
The attitude underneath is what is enraging. The attitude that a person knows what's best for everyone and will tell you whether asked or not because a book written by stone age goat herders told them so.
My, what an interesting public persona...
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May 25, 2015 at 12:18 am
(May 24, 2015 at 9:12 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: My, what an interesting public persona...
Yes. When I am acting in an official capacity as a moderator, I carry a more diplomatic tone.
If you manage to say something ridiculous in the public forum, like 'those poor folks who threatened you and your family with death and eternal torture if you don't believe in their death cult, they mean well,' then I will respond in kind.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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May 25, 2015 at 6:08 am
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(May 25, 2015 at 12:18 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: (May 24, 2015 at 9:12 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: My, what an interesting public persona...
Yes. When I am acting in an official capacity as a moderator, I carry a more diplomatic tone.
If you manage to say something ridiculous in the public forum, like 'those poor folks who threatened you and your family with death and eternal torture if you don't believe in their death cult, they mean well,' then I will respond in kind.
Most people are jerks in private and polite in public. You've decided to reverse that which is an interesting variation.
So, if we meet at a Starbucks to chat about Christianity and atheism, which of you shows up?
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May 25, 2015 at 9:11 am
(May 25, 2015 at 6:08 am)Randy Carson Wrote: (May 25, 2015 at 12:18 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: Yes. When I am acting in an official capacity as a moderator, I carry a more diplomatic tone.
If you manage to say something ridiculous in the public forum, like 'those poor folks who threatened you and your family with death and eternal torture if you don't believe in their death cult, they mean well,' then I will respond in kind.
Most people are jerks in private and polite in public. You've decided to reverse that which is an interesting variation.
So, if we meet at a Starbucks to chat about Christianity and atheism, which of you shows up? He's not being a jerk at all, it is you who openly pronounces the beliefs that he and his family are vile sinners and worthy of eternal torture and pain because he doesn't believe your unsubstantiated fairy tale.
It is you that is a member of a group whose past deeds make the KKK look so good by comparison and who even now use extreme social peer pressure to conform where the church holds a majority. The main killer of indigenous peoples of the Americas we the Catlick missionaries who spread diseases and killed millions. Millions, because they wished to perpetuate a silly fraud.
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May 25, 2015 at 9:23 am
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(May 25, 2015 at 9:11 am)Brakeman Wrote: (May 25, 2015 at 6:08 am)Randy Carson Wrote: Most people are jerks in private and polite in public. You've decided to reverse that which is an interesting variation.
So, if we meet at a Starbucks to chat about Christianity and atheism, which of you shows up? He's not being a jerk at all, it is you who openly pronounces the beliefs that he and his family are vile sinners and worthy of eternal torture and pain because he doesn't believe your unsubstantiated fairy tale.
It is you that is a member of a group whose past deeds make the KKK look so good by comparison and who even now use extreme social peer pressure to conform where the church holds a majority. The main killer of indigenous peoples of the Americas we the Catlick missionaries who spread diseases and killed millions. Millions, because they wished to perpetuate a silly fraud.
Hi. My name is Randy.
I'm very pleased to make your acquaintance.
You are?
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May 25, 2015 at 9:47 am
(May 25, 2015 at 9:23 am)Randy Carson Wrote: (May 25, 2015 at 9:11 am)Brakeman Wrote: He's not being a jerk at all, it is you who openly pronounces the beliefs that he and his family are vile sinners and worthy of eternal torture and pain because he doesn't believe your unsubstantiated fairy tale.
It is you that is a member of a group whose past deeds make the KKK look so good by comparison and who even now use extreme social peer pressure to conform where the church holds a majority. The main killer of indigenous peoples of the Americas we the Catlick missionaries who spread diseases and killed millions. Millions, because they wished to perpetuate a silly fraud.
Hi. My name is Randy.
I'm very please to make your acquaintance.
You are?
He would be Brakeman the voice of reason.
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May 25, 2015 at 11:37 am
(May 25, 2015 at 6:08 am)Randy Carson Wrote: (May 25, 2015 at 12:18 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: Yes. When I am acting in an official capacity as a moderator, I carry a more diplomatic tone.
If you manage to say something ridiculous in the public forum, like 'those poor folks who threatened you and your family with death and eternal torture if you don't believe in their death cult, they mean well,' then I will respond in kind.
Most people are jerks in private and polite in public. You've decided to reverse that which is an interesting variation.
So, if we meet at a Starbucks to chat about Christianity and atheism, which of you shows up?
The same guy you've been talking to all along. Go back and read my response the last two PMs between us. I try to never be a jerk, but I have a quick response to idiotic claims such as the one you made previously in this thread. If someone threatened your family with death, you would respond with "ohh, bless their soul?"
And I have no desire to travel anywhere to talk about Christianity. So you won't meet anyone.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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RE: An Anti-Gay Preacher In My Hometown Was Busted On Grindr
May 25, 2015 at 11:42 am
(May 25, 2015 at 11:37 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: If someone threatened your family with death, you would respond with "ohh, bless their soul?"
bless their little hearts, more likely 
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