Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: December 23, 2024, 4:57 am

Poll: ....will you accept God?
This poll is closed.
Yes
15.63%
5 15.63%
No
84.38%
27 84.38%
Total 32 vote(s) 100%
* You voted for this item. [Show Results]

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
IF in the end, you find that God does exist ....
RE: IF in the end, you find that God does exist ....
(June 2, 2015 at 11:25 am)Stimbo Wrote: I don't know the term for a baby dragon, but a squad of dragons is called a dragoon.

[Image: $(KGrHqV,!n8E63WLpC6PBPD9btuVkQ~~60_35.JPG]
Reply
RE: IF in the end, you find that God does exist ....
(June 2, 2015 at 11:34 am)wallym Wrote: Eternity seems like a long time to be standing on one's principles.

Lol I'm making that into a tshirt Tongue
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

Reply
RE: IF in the end, you find that God does exist ....
(May 31, 2015 at 2:18 pm)I_am_not_mafia Wrote: Please define what a god is.

Maybe I should have elaborated on this a bit more. It ties in with why should we worship it, whatever a 'god' seems to be.

I mean a god has to be something right? Is it one of many gods? If so then why worship that one and not others?

Is it actually another life form, an alien from outer space perhaps, that is far more powerful than us? Do you worship your boss? The leader of your country? A corporation?

Does this god inhabit the same reality that we do? How did this god actually create our reality? And did it create its own reality? If not then does it have a god? If so then why not worship that one instead?

If this god did create its own reality, how did it do it?

Is this reality just like a virtual reality that we create? Like in a game?

Are we meant to be worshipping this god out of fear? Out of love? Just because it's more powerful than us? Does it need our worship, care for it or even acknowledge it? If so why? And does that mean we have power over the god if we don't worship it because it needs it?

Are we going to achieve anything by worshipping it, like stopping it from switching off the computer that we inhabit? Are there better ways of getting what we want like being interesting or entertaining?
Reply
RE: IF in the end, you find that God does exist ....
Thinking upon this a bit more, I'd worship the hidden surprise in a cracker jacks box if the benefits were good enough. My adoration is pretty much up for sale to the highest bidder.
Reply
RE: IF in the end, you find that God does exist ....
(June 2, 2015 at 4:15 pm)I_am_not_mafia Wrote:
(May 31, 2015 at 2:18 pm)I_am_not_mafia Wrote: Please define what a god is.

Maybe I should have elaborated on this a bit more. It ties in with why should we worship it, whatever a 'god' seems to be.

I mean a god has to be something right? Is it one of many gods? If so then why worship that one and not others?

Is it actually another life form, an alien from outer space perhaps, that is far more powerful than us? Do you worship your boss? The leader of your country? A corporation?

Does this god inhabit the same reality that we do? How did this god actually create our reality? And did it create its own reality? If not then does it have a god? If so then why not worship that one instead?

If this god did create its own reality, how did it do it?

Is this reality just like a virtual reality that we create? Like in a game?

Are we meant to be worshipping this god out of fear? Out of love? Just because it's more powerful than us? Does it need our worship, care for it or even acknowledge it? If so why? And does that mean we have power over the god if we don't worship it because it needs it?

Are we going to achieve anything by worshipping it, like stopping it from switching off the computer that we inhabit? Are there better ways of getting what we want like being interesting or entertaining?

Thanks to the majority of you for exploring the question... and as the above poster reminds us, there are more questions!

I especially like the serious responses from: emjay, robvalue, tonus, and even some from whateverist! Wink

My whole point wasn't to trick anyone into saying "no", as some suggested. But to provoke thought about who God really is. All we have
is what has been handed down to us from our ancestors. And they are men. As all of us, they were fallible. I'm sorry, but I can't take everything
I've read, or heard at face value. On either side of the issue!

I am a Catholic by birth, and a Christian through my experiences. But, those are my experiences. I truly believe
that Christ is our savior. In many ways. That said, I'm not pushing my faith on anyone here.... actually just the opposite. I'm looking for any of you
to put up arguments of factual truth, in contrast to what I believe is truth.

Again, thanks for your serious responses! I've learned that some of you do have an open mind about God, and who, or what He is. Its helped me to understand your reasoning more. I hope you realize that my mind is always open to your answers and opinions. Sorry for the delay in responses.... but I am one busy guy! Undecided
Quis ut Deus?
Reply
RE: IF in the end, you find that God does exist ....
Quick question. How do you know that "God" is a he?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
Reply
RE: IF in the end, you find that God does exist ....
(June 2, 2015 at 11:34 am)wallym Wrote: Another interesting question that hasn't been addressed is the rewards program.

If God's a giant douchebag, but heaven is super awesome, and hell sucks balls (in a bad way), I'd definitely bend a knee to get the nice eternity.  Eternity seems like a long time to be standing on one's principles.

Since it is all made up, it is really just Christians making empty threats.

[Image: e129d655150aaaec57842c2de9c9c7a6.jpg]

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
Reply
RE: IF in the end, you find that God does exist ....
(June 2, 2015 at 11:34 am)wallym Wrote: Eternity seems like a long time to be standing on one's principles.

It is also a long time to be on your knees. I will stick with my principles.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson

God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers

Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders

Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
Reply
RE: IF in the end, you find that God does exist ....
(June 3, 2015 at 6:49 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Quick question. How do you know that "God" is a he?

If God were a she, our pricks would be attached to our chins.
Reply
RE: IF in the end, you find that God does exist ....
(June 2, 2015 at 12:34 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Eternity sounds like a long time to be one's self.  I don't know how my positions might change over eternity, or even that there would be any reason to call that changed self..an eternity from now, the same self.  Admittedly, most of my own personal bells and whistles are based on the expected shortness of my existence.  I think that this might be in the periphery of 

"after you've been tortured in hell you may change your tune"

-I may, but as with eternity above......it's difficult to argue that there is continuity of self.....regarding extreme torture.  I could be tormented with hot coals, or tormented with time..and either might coerce me.  But in the here and now..before being tortured or tormented...the only self I can make statements for - says I'd remain as uninterested in death as I am in life.

This.

In truth I could only answer the question the OP poses dependent on the specific beliefs of the poster regarding the said consequences of my decision.  For example, many christians we've debated on these forums believe that Hell is merely a place for the soul to go and die.  Chad Wooter once wrote that hell is more of a place for non believers to hang out and party simply without the benefits of god being around.  (although I can see none).  Still more christians believe that Hell is a place of eternal fiery torture ... excuse me torment - I wouldn't want to offend our local christards and say that god 'tortures' the unbeliever.  He only "torments" them.  

Whatever.  The point is that I would rather have death and peace without consciousness than accept that narcissistic bastard's "gift" of eternal life.  
900 trillion years in heaven of worshiping a self-absorbed, self-proclaimed angry, wrathful, jealous, genocidal, vindictive, blood-thirsty, racist god who loves himself more than he could ever love anything or anyone else??  Hmmm ... what are my options again?
[Image: Evolution.png]

Reply



Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  What seems to be the latest claim about end times belief Vintagesilverscreen 6 838 June 28, 2024 at 6:47 pm
Last Post: Prycejosh1987
  This is the Beginning of the End Serafino 23 3696 November 25, 2023 at 8:24 pm
Last Post: arewethereyet
Brick If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist zwanzig 738 66343 June 28, 2023 at 10:48 am
Last Post: emjay
  Nailed to a cross, Filipino prays for Ukraine war to end Ferrocyanide 1 675 April 8, 2023 at 8:00 pm
Last Post: Silver
  Why you can't find God MilesAbbott81 109 13198 September 19, 2022 at 1:41 pm
Last Post: Ranjr
  Why does god put the needs of the few above the need of the many? Greatest I am 69 7516 February 19, 2021 at 10:30 am
Last Post: Fake Messiah
Lightbulb the end is nigh 2!!! Drich 113 12525 October 1, 2020 at 7:21 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Who the Hell does God think he is?? Drich 13 2249 March 6, 2020 at 12:15 pm
Last Post: Gawdzilla Sama
  Is priestly pedophilia really a sacrament ? How we can find out . . . vorlon13 12 2340 August 28, 2018 at 10:29 pm
Last Post: robvalue
  In the end, there's just what you personally believe Silver 31 6047 August 12, 2018 at 2:27 pm
Last Post: LadyForCamus



Users browsing this thread: 2 Guest(s)