Christianity even with Jesus is ignorant about some stuff of the old

[Coreni]

Like why would he say this when evidence proves the exodus event is completely fictional. In terms of Israelites always living in israel to begin with, only that they where canaanites before. Talk about an allknowing being (sarcasm)


john 5:46-47
46 If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me. 47 But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?”

[popsthebuilder]

Unfortunately it seams as if where Jesus comes into play is where much of the texts do not align. Man has know doubt misinterpreted much of the sacred teachings making them seam as if one man is right where others are in darkness. We must only have faith in the correlating lessons, stories, and ideals. I have found that anything in any translation you find with [ ] or ( ) is best left out of your reading entirely for it seams that most confusion lie within these misinterpretations. They falsely set there as if helping with understanding but really help to smear the word into something less.

[Metis]

Like why would he say this when evidence proves the exodus event is completely fictional. In terms of Israelites always living in israel to begin with, only that they where canaanites before. Talk about an allknowing being (sarcasm)


john 5:46-47
46 If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me. 47 But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?”

For one you're assuming Jesus actually said that, which consdiering the Gospel of John wasn't written till 90-100 AD there's been a pretty long gap between meeting him if the author ever did. Even presuming the traditional authorship claim is correct John must have been ancient by this time, what's to say he remembered it right?

[Coreni]

Like why would he say this when evidence proves the exodus event is completely fictional. In terms of Israelites always living in israel to begin with, only that they where canaanites before. Talk about an allknowing being (sarcasm)


john 5:46-47
46 If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me. 47 But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?”

For one you're assuming Jesus actually said that, which consdiering the Gospel of John wasn't written till 90-100 AD there's been a pretty long gap between meeting him if the author ever did. Even presuming the traditional authorship claim is correct John must have been ancient by this time, what's to say he remembered it right?

Ok then. What about Luke 19:40-44. Jesus says that not one stone will be upon one another on the city of jerusalem. Well he was wrong, since the western wall bottom stones still stands firm today.

And its also noted by most scholars that gospels are not written by eyewitnesses or people who knew eyewitnesses. And most of the new testament writings are forged. And there was no historians who wrote this down (Before after the gospels where written) or where born to be eyewitnesses, they exist after the events in terms of when they where born. They wrote this case after the gospels where written in 70 ad. If one refers to Josephus and Tacitus, so they have no other reference than christianity. So its likely that Paul was the inventor of christianity as we know it today. And even he wasnt an eyewitness or wrote anything about Jesus miracles and life etc. According to him he is more or less a sky deity and not an actual being.

[robvalue]

Jesus was as dumb as everyone else back then. He just had the gift of the gab and a few parlour tricks. And a martyr complex. Probably couldn't even do long division.

I can do long division.

[FatAndFaithless]

We're well aware of the problems of NT authorship around here, but I was curious about one of your claims..

And most of the new testament writings are forged.

What does this mean? We have no idea who wrote the NT, and we know they were written decades later than the events they relate. What does 'being a forgery' mean in this context?

[Faith No More]

Unfortunately it seams as if where Jesus comes into play is where much of the texts do not align. Man has know doubt misinterpreted much of the sacred teachings making them seam as if one man is right where others are in darkness. We must only have faith in the correlating lessons, stories, and ideals. I have found that anything in any translation you find with [ ] or ( ) is best left out of your reading entirely for it seams that most confusion lie within these misinterpretations. They falsely set there as if helping with understanding but really help to smear the word into something less.

Umm...what?

[Minimalist]

We're well aware of the problems of NT authorship around here, but I was curious about one of your claims..

And most of the new testament writings are forged.

What does this mean?  We have no idea who wrote the NT, and we know they were written decades later than the events they relate.  What does 'being a forgery' mean in this context?

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/13...olar-says/

Half of New Testament forged, Bible scholar says

I suspect Ehrman is being generous.  Most likely it is all forged.

[FatAndFaithless]

We're well aware of the problems of NT authorship around here, but I was curious about one of your claims..



What does this mean?  We have no idea who wrote the NT, and we know they were written decades later than the events they relate.  What does 'being a forgery' mean in this context?

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/13...olar-says/

Half of New Testament forged, Bible scholar says

I suspect Ehrman is being generous.  Most likely it is all forged.

I mean, I get that they're full of shit, but what does it mean to be a 'forgery' if we already know the authors are unknown? Does it simply mean that the NT was not literally written by 4 guys named Matthew Mark Luke and John? Because I thought everyone knew that.

[Minimalist]

Generally speaking, what Ehrman means is that this shit was not written by the people who have had their names attached to it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudepigrapha