What would you consider to be evidence for God?

[snowtracks]

^^

All bollocks.

Give me one reference in the bible to, say, a singularity, or particle physics, or even something that references the billions of years it took to get from hot dense state to people being able to write the bible.

"And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light."

What more do you need? Like E=MC^2, it tells you everything with unbelievable economy.

A single dimension consisting of infinite density and temperature expanding out without preplanning would be randomized; E=MC^2 wouldn't exist and a universe with less density would not form stars due to an expansion rate that wouldn't provide an opportunity to pull together the gas and dust; whereas, if more density, gas and dust would condense into black holes, or neutron stars.

[houseofcantor]

"And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light."

What more do you need? Like E=MC^2, it tells you everything with unbelievable economy.

A single dimension consisting of infinite density and temperature expanding out without preplanning would be randomized; E=MC^2 wouldn't exist and a universe with less density would not form stars due to an expansion rate that wouldn't provide an opportunity to pull together the gas and dust; whereas, if more density, gas and dust would condense into black holes, or neutron stars.

And you fuckers misusing the anthropic principle to justify your prsuppositional nonsense should be stapled to the wall. 

I must have known you were coming.

[Edwardo Piet]

I don't believe evidence for God is possible due to his unfalsifiablity.

[snowtracks]

I don't believe evidence for God is possible due to his unfalsifiablity.

‘Unfalsifiability’ was not a problem for Antony Flew in his book “There is a God: How the World's Most Notorious Atheist Changed His Mind” - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_Flew. God’s reveals Himself in: The Book of Nature, and The Book of written Revelation. The information is out there, you just need to let it in.

[Silver]

And I wonder how much more money this notorious guy made after he wrote that. Me-thinks he is still an atheist and just wanted to make more money.

[IATIA]

I have a young fig tree that has yet to produce any fruit. Maybe god could come down and slap it around?

[jenny1972]

...  and that everyone knows that you're really saying

"no, and there really is no way to get evidence for such nonsense".


If we can't get evidence, because evidence (at least by scientific standards) is by it's very nature falsifiable,
(something which the god claim can't provide [currently]) then what would anyone constitute as evidence? Are those who use the "we don't have evidence yet" claim literally, deceived?

Seeing it with our own eyes? How would we know it's not a hallucination?
If by some chance we are provided falsifiability, how would we know we aren't deceived by an alien hallucination inducing device?

unless your open to the possibility to begin with no proof God provides will convince you your limited by your own mind . some people God gives proof to will just assume they are crazy or hallucinating or delusional if the possibility of God is not permitted in their minds .

[Simon Moon]

...  and that everyone knows that you're really saying

"no, and there really is no way to get evidence for such nonsense".


If we can't get evidence, because evidence (at least by scientific standards) is by it's very nature falsifiable,
(something which the god claim can't provide [currently]) then what would anyone constitute as evidence? Are those who use the "we don't have evidence yet" claim literally, deceived?

Seeing it with our own eyes? How would we know it's not a hallucination?
If by some chance we are provided falsifiability, how would we know we aren't deceived by an alien hallucination inducing device?

unless your open to the possibility to begin with no proof God provides will convince you your limited only by your own mind . some people God gives proof to will just assume they are crazy or hallucinating or delusional if the possibility of God is not permitted in their minds .

As many of s responded to you on the other thread, the vast majority of atheists are open to the 'possibility' of the existence of a god.

The only thing that prevents us from believing in the existence of a god, is the continued absence of demonstrable evidence and reasoned argument to support the claim that a god exists.

Atheism is not a dogmatic position, it is a provisional one.

Belief comes from being convinced that a premise or proposition is true. Why should I be convinced that the claim that a god exists is true, before the claim is supported by demonstrable evidence?

[Jackalope]

I don't believe evidence for God is possible due to his unfalsifiablity.

‘Unfalsifiability’ was not a problem for Antony Flew in his book “There is a God: How the World's Most Notorious Atheist Changed His Mind” - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_Flew. God’s reveals Himself in: The Book of Nature, and The Book of written Revelation. The information is out there, you just need to let it in.

Anthony Flew's credulity is hardly our problem. Don't think we didn't notice the thinly-veiled appeal to authority, either.

Got anything that isn't fallacious?

[jenny1972]

unless your open to the possibility to begin with no proof God provides will convince you your limited only by your own mind . some people God gives proof to will just assume they are crazy or hallucinating or delusional if the possibility of God is not permitted in their minds .

As many of s responded to you on the other thread, the vast majority of atheists are open to the 'possibility' of the existence of a god.

The only thing that prevents us from believing in the existence of a god, is the continued absence of demonstrable evidence and reasoned argument to support the claim that a god exists.

Atheism is not a dogmatic position, it is a provisional one.

Belief comes from being convinced that a premise or proposition is true. Why should I be convinced that the claim that a god exists is true, before the claim is supported by demonstrable evidence?

im sure there are some people who are convinced God does not exist  ... but its good to know many people are open to the possibility these are the people who will one day have a relationship with God when that proof is provided to them .