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RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
April 17, 2016 at 7:29 pm
(April 17, 2016 at 7:20 pm)Constable Dorfl Wrote: (April 17, 2016 at 10:50 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Sure you can conceive greater beings than a sky daddy. So can I which is why your taunt in ineffective. The question is what is the greatest possible thing you can conceive? Have you tried yet?
But if I can conceive of greater beings than your shit of a god, it doesn't matter a fuck what the greatest being I can conceive of is, because your shit of a god has failed your maximally great being criterion.
Fuck, Chad, I thought you'd actually know stuff in the area you profess expertise, not just show an ability to spout tangenital nonsense.
And of course, the moment you actually define what characteristics make your "greatest possible being" great, it becomes possible to surpass it merely by proposing a being functionally identical, but capable of eating the first being. That's sort of the problem with what Chad's asking: "greatness" has no upper bound, and the characteristics associated with that concept are highly subjective anyway. It's essentially a meaningless criterion, and so I suppose it's an entirely appropriate one to attach to a god, in some respects. 
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RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
April 17, 2016 at 9:04 pm
To paraphrase the three-card trick of which I spoke earlier, consider it this way:
1. I have the biggest dick in the world. (n.b. this is factually accurate, btw, ladies)
2. "Oh, but my dick is much bigger"
3. Then by default your dick becomes the biggest in the world; therefore your dick is mine, as per 1.
Perfectly logical and reasonable to me.
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RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
April 17, 2016 at 9:23 pm
(April 17, 2016 at 9:04 pm)Stimbo Wrote: To paraphrase the three-card trick of which I spoke earlier, consider it this way:
1. I have the biggest dick in the world. (n.b. this is factually accurate, btw, ladies)
2. "Oh, but my dick is much bigger"
3. Then by default your dick becomes the biggest in the world; therefore your dick is mine, as per 1.
Perfectly logical and reasonable to me.
Of course, you have the advantage there, because unlike god, your dick does not resist hands-on investigation. 
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RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
April 17, 2016 at 9:24 pm
Quite to the contrary, it demands it.
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RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
April 18, 2016 at 12:45 am
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(April 17, 2016 at 9:04 pm)Stimbo Wrote: To paraphrase the three-card trick of which I spoke earlier, consider it this way:
1. I have the biggest dick in the world. (n.b. this is factually accurate, btw, ladies)
2. "Oh, but my dick is much bigger"
3. Then by default your dick becomes the biggest in the world; therefore your dick is mine, as per 1.
Perfectly logical and reasonable to me.
Yes, Randy used that exact argument against me. When I told him FSM was actually the real God, he said the FSM must therefor be the Christian God.
This is the problem with not going any further than defining concepts and then screwing around with them with philosophy.
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RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
April 18, 2016 at 12:47 am
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I am not following this faulty logic regarding big dicks.
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RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
April 18, 2016 at 1:05 am
(April 18, 2016 at 12:47 am)Maelstrom Wrote: I am not following this faulty logic regarding big dicks.
I swear to the FSM, Maelstrom, the sentence above made my brain go back and re-read it in a bad, B-movie robot voice.
 
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
April 18, 2016 at 1:14 am
It's when you can follow faulty logic you need to worry. Or become a professional apologist.
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RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
April 18, 2016 at 1:31 am
(April 17, 2016 at 10:50 am)ChadWooters Wrote: (April 17, 2016 at 4:50 am)Constable Dorfl Wrote: Neither is yhwh, I can easily conceive more maximally great beings than kne with great power but the morals of a spoiled child. Hell, I can point to historical people who have better claims to being maximally great than your non-existent sky daddy. Sure you can conceive greater beings than a sky daddy. So can I which is why your taunt in ineffective. The question is what is the greatest possible thing you can conceive? Have you tried yet?
I have, just not an omnipotent one ...
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RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
April 18, 2016 at 1:02 pm
So, all I have to do is "conceive" something and it is now magically real? Have I got a list. Gotta go now, got some conceiving to do.
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