Calling it into question...

[Joods]

Even other intelegent creatures that surely make there own decisions choose to take there preordained path.

Here's a little hint for you pops.... when trying to speak of other intelligent creatures don't misspell "intelligent."  It makes you look stupid.

Lol Min.. I "fix't" that for him in an earlier post. I also corrected his wrong use of the word "there" to "their" three times. It was fun playing the Grammar Nazi.

[cercatorius]

Judi lynn,  what do you mean?

One of you asked me to recount my interaction with the Lord. That is what I was saying to search for if interested. I doubt there will be much proof that is different from other things I have said. But maybe you'll get a better idea of where I'm coming from.

Pops, I'm curious why you have embraced the medieval reference of "lord" - which is actually a pretty oppressive power structure, if you think about it. It's also male-dominated language. Do you feel your understanding of Christianity is in line with an oppressive, male-dominated power structure? Or is that just habit?

[Drich]

[Minimalist]

Soo.. is it better to suffer now for a few years and live in eternal bliss in your opinion or is it better to live a pampered life for 100 years and be sentenced to Hell?

All you have to do is demonstrate that your vision of hell...and the barbaric god who created it is real, drippy.  Without that you are just one more delusional fool who thinks he can scare people into doing what you think is right.

Fuck you.

[Redbeard The Pink]

[popsthebuilder]

[Ravenshire]

Honestly, it is the greatest piece of FICTION ever written.

I wouldn't even give it 1/10. It has it's moments (very few and quite far between), but in general:
It's main plot line is muddled, internally incoherent and in places downright nonsensical. The sub-plots are sometime misleading, often contradictory and usually pointless. The characters are so one-dimensional they could be replaced by lines and no one would notice anything amiss. Most authors, who miss at plotting and character building are usually good a building believable worlds. Even using a known world (vs. say Vulcan or Tatooine) these ass-hats fail miserably.

Greatest fiction ever? Nah. I've read thousands that are better. In fact, I can't say that I remember ever reading one that's worse, though I've quit some that sucked that were still better than this. Even the bile spewed all over thousands of innocent pages by Stephanie Meyers is better than this steaming pile, and I had to muscle through the gag reflex to finish that tripe.

[Ravenshire]

The Lord is nature and can be seen everywhere in everything

You are right it is about logic and common sense. you people act like everything is here for your pleasure. Life is a battle, but people like you aren't even fighting. You take lack of proper upbringing and turn it into unconditional acceptance of everything as if some shit isn't wrong , then bitch and moan becouse you have no direction. You don't ever wonder why so many are so miserable? The ones that aren't miserable are ignorant.
The morons that lack the capacity to take the ancient texts as lessons and instead try to discredit them by implying that they are first account records of actual events in every case simply don't want to believe in anything else. It isn't some dude with a beard floatin around waiting to step on you when you fuck up. Get that portrayal out of your mind. You can consider the Lord the creation of all good things. Some things in nature are not good for us exactly but that doesn't mean that God is out to get you. Bad shit happens. It is part of nature. It turns worse when people who can't even clear the hurdle of belief , let alone faith start acting like bad shit is because of the Lord that, according to them, isn't there. There is no wonder why you can't see. It's because you refuse. Nature doesn't usually intervien with nature. Life is amazing. It is awesome and terrible.
The truth is that the Lord and the unspeakebke are not the same thing so all the negative shit that you foolishly associate with God can be associated with evil which isn't the Lord. We are all connected to each other, the Lord, and Lucifer if you must need a name for it. If it was possible to do without pride, you could say that we are God and Satan because they are a part of us. You could consider it our conscious. Really simple right. With that being said, the evidence is everywhere. You can swallow your misguided pride and slowly work towards belief and eventually Faith in which you will have your personal proof, or just wait till you die, at which time you will surely, finally have it. The Lord does love his creation , all of it. So if that is the case then how can you expect it to let us destroy it just because we are too blind to see what we are doing. If you want evidence simply look up on a clear nite. If you want to see that I am actually really close to the truth then read the Sumer texts, Book of Enoch, the Old Testament, or Qur'an.
Or you can just think that you know better than civilizations that were here way before us, and who were much more in tune with reality, instinct, gut feeling, intuition, and common sense. Oh yeah, all that shit you said was in the Bible, man wrote that shit. And we all have good and evil in us. So even though the ancients had good intent, they were misguided at times if evil is a power that encompasses all negative things including thoughts and actions then it is easy to see how he would misconstrue all he could grasp in order to do what is being done right now, by you. The Lord will not abolish shit. It is up to us who are failing miserably because of our divided, selfish ways.

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It's good to question. That way you can see when you are being manipulated.

You are the poster boy for the ignorant christer who simply believes the bullshit his holy man tells him about the evil atheists and never tries to find the truth for himself.

You want to come here and tell us what we think and what we believe? Get bent!

[Ravenshire]

As hard as it is for me to admitted simply because I will loose some; the merciful, yet righteous Lord I speak of is the One Lord, but is not solely responsible for bad things. There must be balance. There is another cause for real negative. And that negative is a power. A lesser one no doubt.
There is also another force in the known Universe that is chaos. It can be described very little by me due to it's nature. It is disorder.

Evidence for these claims?

[Ravenshire]

How about actually manning the fuck up and answering the questions asked since you wanted to be such an expert on everyone's lives (especially atheist's lives) instead of blameshifting your bullshit onto something else.

I think we're going to have to keep the questions put to this one very simple.