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Iceland makes blasphemy legal
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 (July 3, 2015 at 6:43 pm)Metis Wrote:(July 3, 2015 at 4:15 pm)Godschild Wrote: Seems to me they just legalized bigotry upon all peoples. Not good. Why, because you believe I'm an image of the image you have of Christians, the Bible nor God instruct me run down another religion, I am called to show the differences and witness to those who do not believe. GC
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 (July 3, 2015 at 4:15 pm)Godschild Wrote: Seems to me they just legalized bigotry upon all peoples. Not good. Funny thing about you Christians. You can openly denounce Jupiter, Thor, Baal, Isis, and Quetzalcoatl without retribution, but as soon as a law is passed that leaves your imaginary pet open to the same criticism without special treatment and associated punishment you scream bigotry. What god is worth worship if he must rely upon the rule of man-made government to shelter him from criticism? Has he no tongue? Is god incapable of defending himself before the Icelandic legislature? Get this straight. There is no law against someone proclaiming faith in your god, they just removed law that punished people for saying they don't. (July 3, 2015 at 4:30 pm)Pyrrho Wrote:(July 3, 2015 at 4:15 pm)Godschild Wrote: Seems to me they just legalized bigotry upon all peoples. Not good. The OP says to abolish blasphemy laws, this to me means anyone can speak against anything they consider religious, and It's fine with me, freedom of speech you know. GC
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RE: Iceland makes blasphemy legal
July 3, 2015 at 10:39 pm
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 (July 3, 2015 at 7:37 pm)Dystopia Wrote: Don't get your hopes on, making blasphemy legal does not erase hate speech laws that encompass any characteristic you can incite hate against, like race, gender and also religion. It's like abolishing a law saying you can go to jail for smoke weed while keeping another saying you can go to jail for doing drugs. Blasphemy is generally much broader than hate speech. Blasphemy can be saying that Jesus was just a man. But that is not hate speech. "A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence." — David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
 (July 3, 2015 at 4:15 pm)Godschild Wrote:(July 3, 2015 at 10:23 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Not sure if this is the correct place for this as it relates to all religions, not just christianity - feel free to move it if needed. Wow. Only with gawd-goggles can you see bigotry in freedom of speech.
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Nice work Iceland! I only realised recently that there were such things as blasphemy laws, but I'm glad to see them coming down. As has been said, what kind of pathetic God needs legislation to help him cover his ears so he doesn't cry? Feel free to send me a private message.
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 RE: Iceland makes blasphemy legal
July 4, 2015 at 11:45 am
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(July 3, 2015 at 10:39 pm)Godschild Wrote:(July 3, 2015 at 4:30 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: You are wrong. They have just stopped enforcing bigotry. One man's heresy is another man's religion. Now there is freedom for people to express their religious views, whereas before, one could not do so if one were not in line with one of the recognized religions. I don't understand this statement in context with your previous one that the end of blasphemy laws will mean legalized bigotry. You first said that was bad and now you are saying it is good? Aren't you an American? Do you feel that you encounter bigotry because there are no blasphemy laws in the US? Would you like to see such laws enacted in the US? |
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