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Why Christians can't respect other's opinion?
#11
RE: Why Christians can't respect other's opinion?
If you truly showed a knife to a priest I fucking respect you
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

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#12
RE: Why Christians can't respect other's opinion?
Turning the other cheek sounds more like letting others walk all over you. That's not noble or commendable, it's lacking assertiveness.
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#13
RE: Why Christians can't respect other's opinion?
(July 7, 2015 at 4:53 pm)Dystopia Wrote: If you truly showed a knife to a priest I fucking respect you

I didn't just show the knife to him. I was holding it in my hand and was going towards him. It was a jagged bread knife and I doubt it could hurt him anyway but I just wanted to startle him which I did. I bet you've never seen someone to run so fast on stairs! Big Grin
If I had a grenade, I would "show" it to him but at the time I still hadn't met my friend who's obsessed with guns and explosives.
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#14
RE: Why Christians can't respect other's opinion?
(July 7, 2015 at 4:50 pm)Atheist_BG Wrote:
(July 7, 2015 at 4:19 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: turning the other cheek always.

Don't take this the wrong way but when you run out of cheeks, what then? Humans only have 4 cheeks. Rolleyes

Heh heh Big Grin

(July 7, 2015 at 4:53 pm)Neimenovic Wrote: Turning the other cheek sounds more like letting others walk all over you. That's not noble or commendable, it's lacking assertiveness.

Turning the other cheek means not to return insult for insult in retaliation, and to instead respond to hatred with love.

I don't see it as letting people walk all over you. You can and should still respond to people's insults/etc, but you do it with love rather than with hatred and more insults.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#15
RE: Why Christians can't respect other's opinion?
(July 7, 2015 at 5:26 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

Quote:Turning the other cheek means not to return insult for insult in retaliation, and to instead respond to hatred with love.

I don't see it as letting people walk all over you. You can and should still respond to people's insults/etc, but you do it with love rather than with hatred and more insults.
So how do you demonstrate your love for the person who insulted you?  Do you apologize for being a loser?  Do you buy him a steak dinner?  Do you agree with his insults about you to show that you are an agreeable person?
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#16
RE: Why Christians can't respect other's opinion?
(July 12, 2015 at 3:11 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:
(July 7, 2015 at 5:26 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: [hide]

Heh heh Big Grin

So how do you demonstrate your love for the person who insulted you?  Do you apologize for being a loser?  Do you buy him a steak dinner?  Do you agree with his insults about you to show that you are an agreeable person?

I just try to continue to treat them with kindness and respect. Doesn't mean I have to agree with them, or apologize if I did nothing wrong, or buy them anything. I just don't insult them back, and continue to treat them well.

Btw, I fail miserably at this plenty of times. Above is just what I believe I should try to do, not how I always act, unfortunately.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#17
RE: Why Christians can't respect other's opinion?
(July 7, 2015 at 5:26 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Turning the other cheek means not to return insult for insult in retaliation, and to instead respond to hatred with love.

I don't see it as letting people walk all over you. You can and should still respond to people's insults/etc, but you do it with love rather than with hatred and more insults.

There are people who don't understand anything else but insults and even aggression. I meet such people all the time. You call them "rednecks" in US English, we call them "selianduri" which means the same.
Years ago such a redneck from the deepest god forsaken country came to my city and began to insult us all. We (I) are patient people and I ignored him for some time but he continued. One day I just had enough of him and punched him in the face, took 2 of his teeth out. Well, he was a boxer and beated me back but the thing is he never came back to my city. Next time I saw him on the sea beach in another city, he walked around me, pretending he can't see me.
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#18
RE: Why Christians can't respect other's opinion?
(July 12, 2015 at 3:32 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(July 12, 2015 at 3:11 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: So how do you demonstrate your love for the person who insulted you?  Do you apologize for being a loser?  Do you buy him a steak dinner?  Do you agree with his insults about you to show that you are an agreeable person?

I just try to continue to treat them with kindness and respect. Doesn't mean I have to agree with them, or apologize if I did nothing wrong, or buy them anything. I just don't insult them back, and continue to treat them well.

Btw, I fail miserably at this plenty of times. Above is just what I believe I should try to do, not how I always act, unfortunately.

If you can't control your emotions you will be in danger of hell fire.  Matthew 5:22.  So you might want to chill out unless you like the heat.
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#19
RE: Why Christians can't respect other's opinion?
We are the Christians. Lower your arguments and prepare to be converted. We will replace your philosophical and intellectual distinctiveness with our own. Your brain will adapt to service us.
Resistance...is futile.
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#20
RE: Why Christians can't respect other's opinion?
(July 7, 2015 at 4:19 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(July 7, 2015 at 4:09 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: You have to remember that all religions want their adherents to proselytize.  

This is true, but I am a strong believer in doing it Francis's way:

"Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words." - Saint Francis of Assisi.

In other words live the gospel in your actions by following the teachings of Jesus, being kind to others, turning the other cheek always. And when warranted (in questions/discussions), talk about your faith.


Unfortunately, a lot of people don't get this.

this is what happens in Budhism in that the budhist tries to be an example of compasion instead of a voice about it. Karma or not, reincarnation or not I'm ussualy impressed with the monks words of plain and simple advice.
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