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RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
July 20, 2015 at 6:50 pm
(July 20, 2015 at 6:34 pm)Rhythm Wrote: (July 20, 2015 at 4:45 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Ah, gotcha. I agree, btw. I wasn't meaning to say we should just say "oh well, they're not very many people so whatever," and leave it at that.
That's not what I meant by that. I agree they need to have their beliefs regarding gay people challenged and criticized by Christians and non Christians a like. What I meant was I have never met one myself to do the criticizing. If I did meet one, I would definitely say something.
...but what if it hurts their feelings to be challenged and criticized thusly, what if it offends their religious sensibilities?
If I do it respectfully and genuinely, and they are still "hurt" then I'd say they're being a baby and they need to get over it.
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RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
July 20, 2015 at 6:52 pm
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Then stop being a baby, you need to get over it. Your adherence to a hateful scapegoating religion is easily as detestable to me as their homophobia is to you. Your hypocrisy and flip flopping is amatuer, and your troll baiting is obvious. Has been since you joined. All I've had to do is dangle the worm from day one and you swallowed. Trying to have a serious, honest and respectful discussion with you is like trying to force-feed an eel wet sand.
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RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
July 20, 2015 at 6:55 pm
(July 20, 2015 at 6:47 pm)Stimbo Wrote: (July 20, 2015 at 6:20 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by a middle ground. The majority of us don't think gays are vile, if that's what you mean. Can you clarify?
Ok, I'm going to ask you to drop the innocent act just for a moment. I don't believe for a moment that you're as dumb as you seem to want to pretend to be. By "middle ground" I was clearly referring to the gulf between the extreme positions of your special magic book being (apparently) perverted by extremists on the one hand, and your strawmanning me into a position of banning the whole damn thing on the other. I never mentioned condemning people in any of that and I'm wondering why you want to get me to say that?
The reason I would react the way I said to anyone expressing the "dead child" thing is for personal reasons. And no I'm not going to share with you.
I think it's better to just take what I say at face value instead of assuming I'm lying, and then holding that assumption against me. I guess I must be dumb then, but I honestly was not sure what you meant by middle ground, which is why I asked you to clarify. Sorry if this upset you.
No problem, I respect your decision not to.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
July 20, 2015 at 6:57 pm
(July 20, 2015 at 6:55 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I respect
IF I HEAR THIS GOD DAMN LINE ONE MORE TIME!
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RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
July 20, 2015 at 6:58 pm
(July 20, 2015 at 6:52 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Then stop being a baby, you need to get over it. Your adherence to a hateful scapegoating religion is easily as detestable to me as their homophobia is to you. Your hypocrisy and flip flopping is amatuer, and your troll baiting is obvious. Has been since you joined. All I;ve had to do is dangle the worm from day one and you swallowed. Trying to have a serious, honest and respectful discussion with you is like trying to force-feed an eel wet sand.
When was I being a baby?
I have never objected to anyone respectfully disagreeing with me on my beliefs. And heck, even the times people here are NOT so respectful, I still normally just take it and maintain my composure. Have there been times where it's gotten too much for me and I've slipped up? Yes. Only like, 3 times lol, out of many. But never when people are being respectful So I'm not sure what you mean.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
July 20, 2015 at 7:00 pm
(July 20, 2015 at 6:57 pm)Napoléon Wrote: (July 20, 2015 at 6:55 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I respect
IF I HEAR THIS GOD DAMN LINE ONE MORE TIME!
Uh... ok, I don't respect. Lol.
Damned if I do, damned if I don't. 
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RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
July 20, 2015 at 7:03 pm
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-and like a complete rube...you swallow yet another worm.
Discussing the dangers of taboo and the degrading situation of moderates in the face of fanaticism..na, crickets, you've got nothing to say. Something you can take offense to or play the martyr card for...... you're down for that like flies on a turd.
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RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
July 20, 2015 at 7:03 pm
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The dissonance between *what* you're saying and *how* you're saying it is so strange. So much so that I severely doubt if any of your politeness is sincere.
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RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
July 20, 2015 at 7:05 pm
(July 20, 2015 at 7:00 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (July 20, 2015 at 6:57 pm)Napoléon Wrote: IF I HEAR THIS GOD DAMN LINE ONE MORE TIME!
Uh... ok, I don't respect. Lol.
Damned if I do, damned if I don't.
Right. You're the victim anyway. Funny that.
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RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
July 20, 2015 at 7:08 pm
(July 20, 2015 at 7:05 pm)Neimenovic Wrote: (July 20, 2015 at 7:00 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Uh... ok, I don't respect. Lol.
Damned if I do, damned if I don't.
Right. You're the victim anyway. Funny that.
Not saying I'm a "victim", just pointing out an observation.
Really, if I was telling people I didn't respect their views, I'd be getting poopoo for that too. I was just stating the obvious.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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