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RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
July 17, 2015 at 6:56 pm
(July 17, 2015 at 6:32 pm)abaris Wrote: (July 17, 2015 at 2:24 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Herr Von Popenfuhrer is still around and he wouldn't like it.
Sorry, that's just plain stupid. He was in the Hitler Youth, which was mandatory, given his date of birth. There's everything to not like about him, starting with his career and ending with his term as pope, but that's just ludicrous and baseless.
Fuck him. He was in the luftwaffe, too. Do you give him a pass for moving pervert priests around Munich too?
These catholic cocksuckers deserve every bit of scorn they can have heaped on them. Otherwise...you end up with a dumb shithead like Randy.
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RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
July 17, 2015 at 7:03 pm
(July 17, 2015 at 6:56 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Fuck him. He was in the luftwaffe, too. Do you give him a pass for moving pervert priests around Munich too?
Yeah, min, I hate to say this, especially to you, since I usually appreciate your posts, but educate yourself on what people being born in 1927 had to do if they didn't outright desert and risked being shot or hanged. He was a so called "Luftwaffenhelfer", which was again mandatory and not a choice.
Once again, loathe him for what he did as a catholic leader and I'm on your side. But I'm certainly not supporting unbased and uninformed bullshit.
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RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
July 17, 2015 at 8:22 pm
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I don't think that Min would hold him to a higher standard, if he hadn't claimed it for himself when he donned the silly hat. Perhaps being in the hitler youth and the luftwaffe doesn't make a person an asshole (I don't think that it does), and perhaps being a person who shuffled pedo priests doesn't either (again, I can imagine the rare scenario)....but being -the pope- who did these things....well, that's another story. If the church weren't -already- debased, then elevating that guy would have done the trick all by itself, and that's -before- we start to consider his individual remarks and positions..........-as- the pontiff. Throwing -that- in the pile is akin to setting fire to a church...........meh.
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RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
July 17, 2015 at 8:27 pm
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(July 17, 2015 at 8:22 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Perhaps being in the hitler youth and the luftwaffe doesn't make a person an asshole (I don't think that it does), and perhaps being a person who shuffled pedo priests doesn't either (again, I can imagine the rare scenario)....but being -the pope- who did these things....well, that's another story.
Yeah, two different things. One being his role as bishop, cardinal and pope and the second his adolescence when he didn't have a choice. To blame him for his youth and not having the guts to desert is just plain stupid. To blame him for his role as leading member of the clergy is justified.
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RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
July 17, 2015 at 9:10 pm
(July 17, 2015 at 6:29 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: (July 17, 2015 at 1:28 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: For the things that I need redemption from, he does not have the power, authority or ability.
You may be kidding or baiting, but if you are serious, then know that there is nothing in your life that God cannot heal or change. ![[Image: signofcross.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=forums.catholic.com%2Fimages%2Fsmilies%2Fprayer%2Fsignofcross.gif)
Sweet. What about all those believers who require some healing and changes? You know, like starving children, or kids born with epidermolysis bullosa, or victims of abuse, or basically anything in need of just a bit of godly TLC.
Don't worry, I'll wait. 
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RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
July 17, 2015 at 9:44 pm
(July 17, 2015 at 6:29 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: (July 17, 2015 at 1:28 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: For the things that I need redemption from, he does not have the power, authority or ability.
You may be kidding or baiting, but if you are serious, then know that there is nothing in your life that God cannot heal or change. (emphasis is mine)
How about regrowing a missing limb?!? Bet he can't manage that.
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RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
July 17, 2015 at 9:45 pm
Nope. The fucker can't seem to handle anything that can be verified.
I wonder why that is?
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RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
July 17, 2015 at 9:50 pm
(July 17, 2015 at 9:44 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: (July 17, 2015 at 6:29 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: You may be kidding or baiting, but if you are serious, then know that there is nothing in your life that God cannot heal or change. (emphasis is mine)
How about regrowing a missing limb?!? Bet he can't manage that.
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RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
July 17, 2015 at 9:55 pm
(July 17, 2015 at 1:16 pm)Kaninchen Wrote: The triumph of Christianity was to invent an illness ("You're all doomed!") and announce itself as the only cure.
Huh? Are you sure you're Jewish?
The first sacrifice offered for sin was in the book of Genesis, from your own Torah....
So no, Christianity didn't invent anything, it just points to Jesus Christ as the ultimate sacrifice for sin.
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RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
July 17, 2015 at 10:13 pm
Yeah, yeah, we know. Insane doctrine.
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