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Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
#51
RE: Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
What a role model the fucker was.

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#52
RE: Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
Does it matter Muhammad was a pedophile? If Allah is a deity that thinks nine year old girls acceptable to marry then Allah is not a deity that I want to worship. Think about this for a moment. The creator of our universe cannot think of a better way to protect Aisha than to have her married to Muhammad. Sounds awfully suspect to me. But just because someone happens to marry a nine year it doesn't automatically mean they are a pedophile.

If you ask the Shia, Aisha was totally evil. Yet Allah did not foresee this? LOL WTF.

But seriously, even Aisha was suspicious of Muhammad, and this in Bukhari:
http://quranx.com/Hadith/Bukhari/Book-67/Hadith-50/

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#53
RE: Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
Should not have read this thread after dinner
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#54
RE: Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
(July 18, 2015 at 12:33 pm)Minimalist Wrote: What a role model the fucker was.

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You seem like a big ignorant and u know nothing about a muslim marriage these are the sisters of bride and groom not the brides you idiot.

You're a community that get standards from TV sorry but if some idiot in fox says something is right that doesn't make it right !!!!!!
And after all of that you call your morality subjective !!!!!!

(July 18, 2015 at 9:55 am)Rhythm Wrote: LOL< the extended tu qoque....  It doesn't -matter- how many people back in the day were pedos - it won't excuse this supposed paragon of righteousness. If a person believes that Mo screwed his childbride, while also believing that pedophilia is wrong and that Mo is a picture of -divine- virtue.... the argument stands. The amount of pedos in the world past and present doesn't have any excusing or ameliorative effect, and I say this with certainty because -that- contention is demonstrably and mechanically not valid.

"Your honor, the case against my client and his religious order should be dismissed......he's not the first or only child fucker on earth, and neither he nor his compound of likeminded childfuckers feel that they've done anything wrong" - no dice.

There's nothing ridiculous in reminding some douchenozzle that the person who's moral advice they consider to be of the highest authority was a pedo. I don't take moral advice from pedos, so I'm not interested in what Mo's opinion on this, that, or the other thing might have been. Let's see if I can scrounge up a nice lengthy reply from Hussy, Dys.....with my question below, I;d be willing to take this back up with you after we've both had a chance to see that response. How does that sound?

To answer the OP question...yep, it's pretty bad, but did you need to ask us that...were you unsure in the absence of our opinion? You seem to realize that it -is- a black mark on your religion, judging by your attempts to explain it away. If you didn't think it was a problem, why not just leave it alone, as stated? So what if Mo -was- a pedo, what's it to -you-?
I wanted to leave it but others started acting like I don't have an argument and that's why I was forced to discuss the issue.

As for Muhammad being a pedo he wasn't according to his days standards and these days standards differ then who made them and why should muslims agree to what some jercks on TV say !!!!!!
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#55
RE: Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
By the standard of my day, being an atheist is fine.  So I'm off the hook for the same reason that Mos off the hook. Mail your god the news, and look...if you think it;s just fine and dandy for a grown man to put his penis in a childs vagina, that's your business. You, nor the muslims of the world in general, have to agree that child molestation is wrong. You just go ahead and keep being yourself, okay? Sure, I'll think you're a sick fuck (and that muslims are sick fucks)...but what's that really matter to you or them anyway? You've got "god" on your side, and that "god" guy thinks that 9 year old girls are fair game, right? Resolved.


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#56
RE: Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
(July 18, 2015 at 9:15 am)Dystopia Wrote: [quote pid='996582' dateline='1437224879']


Are you sure about that? My girlfriend had her period a few days before hitting 10. Is she physically deficient?

Why would that be a "deficiency"? But she still was 10 years old, anyway (yeah - few days does not mean a thing).  There have been girls as young as 5/6 years, who got pregnant - that doesn't make it a generally applicable rule.

Also - nowadays girls start menstruating earlier than they used to because of modern nutrition, that allows them to build a sufficient layer of body fat early (some also blame hormones used in milk production for triggering puberty, but I don't know how scientific that claim is; probably not very). Ask women who trained  ballet, or other activities, that required them to stay extremely skinny throughout their teen years - they tend not to menstruate until 16 and later. So I'll bet 1500 years ago, in the desert girls would be unlikely to sexually mature as early as 10.

Sure - there might have been plenty of people marrying and f-ing kids back then. There still are plenty of them now - and I will continue to call them paedophiles, because that's what they are - whether it's "the norm" or not.
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#57
RE: Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
The Quran says the age of marriage is when people are at their most strength (prime). Sorry, that's well above 9, 10, 11, etc.  Exactly what age the Sunnah has designated in elaboration of this aya has also been perhaps lost, but perhaps not, if we look at hadiths that talk about the age in which the orphan must get his money (because Quran says that's at the age of marriage and the most prime) and they are reasonable.
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#58
RE: Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
Stop opposing the family of mohammad..... Wink
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#59
RE: Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
(July 18, 2015 at 11:12 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Stop opposing the family of mohammad..... Wink

That is the path to God chosen for humanity and designated in this age for all who the reminder reaches out to. Love of the family of Mohammad. Love the exalted ones who glorify God as he ought to be glorified, who obey him and don't disobey him, who follow him most faithfully, who guide others, who strive in God's way, who's light and blessings are found in all creation, and who loving would imply to love all goodness in all humans. 

You got it Rhythm. For an Atheist, the first step is to submit to the fact we humans are created in degrees from their archetype and are meant to incline to perfect souls (which is them), and that we do have souls and that they are exalted souls with unseen reality, beauty, and glory linked to the Eternal and Absolute, and their praise, honor, and treasure belongs to HIM (exalted he above all), and also recognize degrees of their being in other creation, and love them out of the same love of perfect souls who are praiseworthy, good, exalted, beautiful, and rivers that connect to God and have been brought out to this world.
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#60
RE: Is it bad that Muhammed(pbuh) married Aicha ?
Quote:You seem like a big ignorant and u know nothing about a muslim marriage these are the sisters of bride and groom not the brides you idiot.


Maybe you better talk to the chief grand high exalted mucky-muck in Yemen, asshole.

http://www.emirates247.com/eb247/news/re...5-1.236299


Quote:Yemen's most influential Islamic cleric is vowing to gather a "million" signatures to protest against a draft law banning child brides in the country.

Sheik Abdul-Majid Al Zindani spoke yesterday at a conference in the Yemeni capital, San'a. Proposed legislation to set a minimum marriage age of 17 has been stalled by opposition from religious leaders who say it is un-Islamic.

I imagine in your horseshit religion he outranks you.  BTW, does the photo look familiar?
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