Atheism the unscientific belief (part one, two, and three)

[robvalue]

I'm an ice cream!

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[Angrboda]

There have been plenty of prayer studies, studies into NDEs, OBEs, remote viewing, and so forth. Where science could form a hypothesis about a testable phenomena, it has.

[Homeless Nutter]

[...] dont you agree that science and technology has advanced considerably since the 1800's?

Sure - and yet theology (study of god) and knowledge of magic have not advanced even a little bit in the past 500 years, at least - even though beliefs in such phenomena have always been more popular than science. That should tell you something.

[jenny1972]

there have been many cases that defy the laws of nature witnessed by others but no interest by the scientific community to seriously investigate because of disbelief . they would rather be content with mystery that consider the possibility of God and investigate the possibility so much for scientific curiosity

Example please.

http://listverse.com/2008/07/14/top-10-a...-miracles/

[Homeless Nutter]

http://listverse.com/2008/07/14/top-10-a...-miracles/

Oh, dear... Can you chose ONE of those, that's supposed to be convincing? Because that's a lot of crap to go through and if you want - you can find rational explanations for all of those on the internet yourself.

Of course - since you believe in god, I'll bet you never bothered to look. I mean - why try to explain things, if you can just believe in magic and accept them without evidence, right?

[robvalue]

I don't know what people are expecting.

Do they want scientists to go, "Wow, yes this is amazing! We have no good explanation for this, so it's magic! Everyone can make up their own stories about it, and we will endorse them!"

Scientists aren't stopping people making up stories.

[jenny1972]

[...] dont you agree that science and technology has advanced considerably since the 1800's?

Sure - and yet theology (study of god) and knowledge of magic have not advanced even a little bit in the past 500 years, at least - even though beliefs in such phenomena have always been more popular than science. That should tell you something.

yes it has there are beliefs about God that exist today that did not even exist 20 years ago . why do you think we believe in God yet do not believe in fairies ? if we just have overactive imaginations and believe in fantasy creatures why do so many only believe in one and not all ?

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there have been many cases that defy the laws of nature witnessed by others but no interest by the scientific community to seriously investigate because of disbelief . [...]

Uhm... No. That's not true either. Scientists investigate evidence. People who have no evidence like to claim that scientists "ignore" them, but that's usually because they are trying to make money off of their bullsh*t.

and yet scientists did not investigate any of examples of miracles in the link that i posted which were all physical observable manifestations.

[Angrboda]

Sure - and yet theology (study of god) and knowledge of magic have not advanced even a little bit in the past 500 years, at least - even though beliefs in such phenomena have always been more popular than science. That should tell you something.

yes it has there are beliefs about God that exist today that did not even exist 20 years ago . why do you think we believe in God yet do not believe in fairies ? if we just have overactive imaginations and believe in fantasy creatures why do so many only believe in one and not all ?

Theory of mind is a theory insofar as the mind is not directly observable.[1] The presumption that others have a mind is termed a theory of mind because each human can only intuit the existence of their own mind through introspection, and no one has direct access to the mind of another. It is typically assumed that others have minds by analogy with one's own, and this assumption is based on the reciprocal, social interaction, as observed in joint attention,[4] the functional use of language,[5] and the understanding of others' emotions and actions.[6] Having a theory of mind allows one to attribute thoughts, desires, and intentions to others, to predict or explain their actions, and to posit their intentions. As originally defined, it enables one to understand that mental states can be the cause of—and thus be used to explain and predict—the behavior of others.[1] Being able to attribute mental states to others and understanding them as causes of behavior implies, in part, that one must be able to conceive of the mind as a "generator of representations".[7][8] If a person does not have a complete theory of mind it may be a sign of cognitive or developmental impairment.

Theory of mind appears to be an innate potential ability in humans: one requiring social and other experience over many years for its full development. Different people may develop more, or less, effective theories of mind. Empathy is a related concept, meaning the recognition and understanding of the states of mind of others, including their beliefs, desires and particularly emotions. This is often characterized as the ability to "put oneself into another's shoes". Recent neuro ethological studies of animal behaviour suggest that even rodents may exhibit ethical or empathetic abilities.[9] Neo-Piagetian theories of cognitive development maintain that theory of mind is a byproduct of a broader hypercognitive ability of the human mind to register, monitor, and represent its own functioning.[10]

Wikipedia | Theory of mind

We have this machinery in our head for attributing a mind to other people. It can get misapplied to attribute mentality to inanimate objects, weather storms, and a general attribution that there is "another mind 'out there'". Since this is part of the basic machinery of mind, such a misattribution is more common than say, a belief in fairies.

[Homeless Nutter]

yes it has there are beliefs about God that exist today that did not even exist 20 years ago .

Like what? Name one. (Keep in mind - "belief" is not the same as "knowledge". Anyone can make up new things to believe in.)

why do you think we believe in God yet do not believe in fairies ?

Yes, exactly - why DON'T you believe in fairies? Has anyone disproved fairies? Who and when? Mind you - there are still people who DO believe in fairies.

It's simple - superstitions fall in and out of popularity. Just like art does. Holywood used to make a lot of Westerns 50 years ago. They don't make them almost at all anymore - is that because the knowledge somehow progressed? Or simply because the public got bored of the subject?

if we just have overactive imaginations and believe in fantasy creatures why do so many only believe in one and not all ?

Because a lot of those fantasies are mutually exclusive. For example evangelical christian can't believe in fairies, or - I don't know - smurfs, because they're not in the bible.

Although it's also true, that people who believe in one form of superstition usually believe in more than one.
Like believers in aliens tend to also believe in governmental conspiracies, because those two go very well together (we have no evidence of alien presence, so government must be covering a lot of stuff).

It's difficult to tell how people, who reject logic decide on what is and what isn't believable.

[Angrboda]

Uhm... No. That's not true either. Scientists investigate evidence. People who have no evidence like to claim that scientists "ignore" them, but that's usually because they are trying to make money off of their bullsh*t.

and yet scientists did not investigate any of examples of miracles in the link that i posted which were all physical observable manifestations.

Your claim is simply false. Most 'miracles' have been extensively studied.

Miracles under the microscope: The investigation of miracle cures represents a curious intersection between medical science and religious doctrine