Evidence: The Gathering

[Cyberman]

The shroud of turin is not extremely distorted, therefore is was never wrapped around a body to achieve the end result.

Actually, that is not true The image is distorted and only recently was a team of forensic researchers able to use computer modeling to reconstruct it.

Got a citation for that so we can look it up?

How long should I give this before assuming the answer is "no", I wonder..?

[Angrboda]

[Minimalist]

[AtheistAspie]

None of your "facts" constitute real evidence.  You cannot use quotes from a book we believe to be a work of complete fiction (the bible) as evidence for the existence of a man whom we believe to be fictitious.  That's like saying that the giant from Jack and the Beanstalk is a real person, because it said he was in the story.  As for the idea of a person's "coming to know god" being evidence of his existence, this is completely laughable.  If an individual with schizophrenia has a hallucination about a talking purple monkey, should we take that person's claim that he has a relationship with the talking monkey as evidence that the monkey is real?  You seem to have a difficult time ascertaining what facts actually are.  A fact would be someone going to Jesus's tomb and finding a skeleton, extracting DNA from the bone (very difficult procedure), and matching the alleles from the genes within the DNA to a blood lineage that we have proven is absolutely, definitively, the bloodline of Jesus.  Even this fact wouldn't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the skeleton in the cave was Jesus, it just proves that he had a lineage, and that he, or someone related to him, died in a cave.

[robvalue]

Metis: that's cool, I look forward to the debate!

[Neo-Scholastic]

Actually, that is not true The image is distorted and only recently was a team of forensic researchers able to use computer modeling to reconstruct it.

Got a citation for that so we can look it up?

How long should I give this before assuming the answer is "no", I wonder..?

From the History Channel, skip to about 1:15:00 where they talk about the computer modeling.

[Longhorn]

Lol really Chad? Really?

[abaris]

From the History Channel, skip to about 1:15:00 where they talk about the computer modeling.

The History channel? Really? The same guys who can't even get their facts about 20th century Europe right?

[Neo-Scholastic]

You do realize that questioning the source doesn't refute the message? The fact remains that the facial proportions of the image are consistent with its use a a wrapping. The claim of the earlier poster about 'distortion' is not true.

[abaris]