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Life Is Short; Have an Affair
#91
RE: Life Is Short; Have an Affair
If I hacked the limbs off "non-innocents" I don't think I'd get any sympathy on that count.  If I did, justice would demand that said sympathy be ignored.  Excusing a breach of privacy because those affected belong to a group that we might attach a negative moral value judgement to says nothing even remotely generous about us. Bunch'a fuckin busybodies, if you ask me. Wink

Carry on.
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#92
RE: Life Is Short; Have an Affair
(August 24, 2015 at 3:29 pm)Napoléon Wrote: Lol you are so easy to wind up.

Outside this I was falsely accused of throwing a rock at a car during recess at a middle school, a private school. Was also questioned about a 30k TV camera that went missing at a TV station I interned at. Until you are falsely accused , or even looked at funny for things you know you didn't do, don't judge.

You don't protect the accused because you think they are innocent, you protect them because you value your own rights and privacy.

Yes, I take this personally, not because I like the website, or its patrions, but because I value my own rights and privacy.
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#93
RE: Life Is Short; Have an Affair
The thing to bear in mind here, is there is no privacy on the internet, nor any inalienable right to it. Assume you have the right to it all you want, but the people signing up to this website put their 'privacy' in the hands of Ashley Madison. Fucking LOL that they got hacked.

By no means do I condone hacks like this. That's not what I'm saying, but the argument for 'rights and privacy' isn't really a good one when the people who you are saying have such a right, signed over their privacy to a company that promotes affairs and cheaters. Boo fucking hoo if you ask me. The people who sign up to it are scum. The people who run it are scum. And the people who hacked it are scum.

There's no protection that needs to be offered. People are talking about this like people's rights have been violated. Such people need to stop being so god damn naive if you ask me.
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#94
RE: Life Is Short; Have an Affair
When someone decides that you're scum Napo, imma boo hoo you too, and remind you that you probably deserve whatever it is they have in mind..lol.

(you being from the commie UK, you probably didn;t realize that we here in the us have a right to equal protection of law...lol, and hacking a site, obtaining personal and financial info actually -is- illegal...)

Wink
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#95
RE: Life Is Short; Have an Affair
(August 24, 2015 at 3:47 pm)Aroura Wrote: I don't advocate law breaking or hacking, but what innocent people are getting hurt by this exactly? I've seen that defense from a couple of others.

Who other people cheated on is none of my business, but I'm not ok with this kind of lying. Is someone said earlier in the thread, if ou want to have sex with someone besides your partner, either ditch them or be honest with them. There are many open marriages that work fine, because they are honest about the sex with other people thing.

I think this is a direct result of stupid Christian morals about sex. People find their urge to have sex shamefull, and so they lie about it. The truth is the LIE is the harmful thing. It hurts everyone including the liar.

It was an invasion of privacy and not even a private detective, it was carpet bombing.
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#96
RE: Life Is Short; Have an Affair
(August 24, 2015 at 5:08 pm)Napoléon Wrote: The people who sign up to it are scum.

Every single one them, for whatever reason?
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#97
RE: Life Is Short; Have an Affair
(August 24, 2015 at 5:08 pm)Napoléon Wrote: The thing to bear in mind here, is there is no privacy on the internet, nor any inalienable right to it. Assume you have the right to it all you want, but the people signing up to this website put their 'privacy' in the hands of Ashley Madison. Fucking LOL that they got hacked.

By no means do I condone hacks like this. That's not what I'm saying, but the argument for 'rights and privacy' isn't really a good one when the people who you are saying have such a right, signed over their privacy to a company that promotes affairs and cheaters. Boo fucking hoo if you ask me. The people who sign up to it are scum. The people who run it are scum. And the people who hacked it are scum.

There's no protection that needs to be offered. People are talking about this like people's rights have been violated. Such people need to stop being so god damn naive if you ask me.

The hell there is no privacy on the internet. How many members of this website use their real names? Some may, but of those who do, would it be OK for a theist to hack this website an publicly publish your personal info because they find not believing immoral?
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#98
RE: Life Is Short; Have an Affair
How does this compare with what happened to the SONY PSN a year or two ago?
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#99
RE: Life Is Short; Have an Affair
(August 24, 2015 at 5:17 pm)Rhythm Wrote: When someone decides that you're scum Napo, imma boo hoo you too, and remind you that you probably deserve whatever it is they have in mind..lol.

Go for it.

Quote:(you being from the commie UK, you probably didn;t realize that we here in the us have a right to equal protection of law...lol, and hacking a site, obtaining personal and financial info actually -is- illegal...)

Wink

Aye mate. I'm the one who lives in a commie country. Keep telling yourself that while the NSA snoop your emails. I wonder what they think of your 'right to privacy'?

Again, you're being naive as fuck to think anything on the internet is private. You sign up to this shit, you're leaving your details in their hands. End of. Sure, the people doing the hacking are breaking the law, never said that wasn't illegal. You're talking about something else there.

But if you think you actually have any right to privacy online, lol, good luck with that. That's got so many people so far hasn't it.

(August 24, 2015 at 5:25 pm)Irrational Wrote: Every single one them, for whatever reason?

Yes. Every one of them. You think people who go onto a website for affairs aren't scum?
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RE: Life Is Short; Have an Affair
(August 24, 2015 at 5:20 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(August 24, 2015 at 3:47 pm)Aroura Wrote: I don't advocate law breaking or hacking, but what innocent people are getting hurt by this exactly? I've seen that defense from a couple of others.

Who other people cheated on is none of my business, but I'm not ok with this kind of lying.  Is someone said earlier in the thread, if ou want to have sex with someone besides your partner, either ditch them or be honest with them.  There are many open marriages that work fine, because they are honest about the sex with other people thing.  

I think this is a direct result of stupid Christian morals about sex.  People find their urge to have sex shamefull, and so they lie about it.  The truth is the LIE is the harmful thing.  It hurts everyone including the liar.

It was an invasion of privacy and not even a private detective, it was carpet bombing.
Did not answer my question of what innocent people are being hurt? In about half of the US, cheating on your spouse is against the law.  How are you defining "innocent"? 

I must say I don't condone this hacking of other people's info, but I'm just not getting the innocent people argument.  Some douchebag cheaters/liars/lawbreakers got hacked by some other douchebag lawbreakers.

The only innocent people who might be hurt are all the SO's who are about to find out their partner is a fucking cheater.....and that isn't that hackers fault really, now is it?

Still, I think it is wrong to release the information, but NOT because the people are "innocent", but because 2 wrongs do not make a right.  And it does open the door to basically condoning bad things happening to people who do things we don't agree with, and that isn't how I want the world to work.
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