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Do you feel (new) Atheist culture?
#31
RE: Do you feel (new) Atheist culture?
I bought Penn Jillette's book on being an atheist expecting good things.

Apparently, Teller is the brains of the operation.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#32
RE: Do you feel (new) Atheist culture?
(July 29, 2015 at 11:53 am)Faith No More Wrote: I bought Penn Jillette's book on being an atheist expecting good things.

Apparently, Teller is the brains of the operation.

You should've known better! When does anything by a libertarian make sense?
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#33
RE: Do you feel (new) Atheist culture?
(July 29, 2015 at 11:53 am)Faith No More Wrote: I bought Penn Jillette's book on being an atheist expecting good things.

Apparently, Teller is the brains of the operation.

Teehee. I don't like Penn Jillette.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#34
RE: Do you feel (new) Atheist culture?
(July 29, 2015 at 11:50 am)drfuzzy Wrote: I'm a relatively new atheist who lives in the middle of the American Bible belt.  I'm still in the "phase?" of reading everything I can find on the subject.   (I do like Boghossian, Joshua Kelley, Penn Jillette . . . )  I gradually became atheist by a combination of reading scientific literature by Sagan, Hawking, etc., and sitting through church services that sounded increasingly insane.  So no, I have no actual community . . . unless you count this forum.  My brother is also atheist but we don't discuss it much.

Not an actual community, but for example by reading some "standard" literature, you will probably unwittingly share more and more language and outlook with other atheists.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#35
RE: Do you feel (new) Atheist culture?
(July 29, 2015 at 11:55 am)Alex K Wrote: Teehee. I don't like Penn Jillette.

Neither do I, now!
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#36
RE: Do you feel (new) Atheist culture?
(July 29, 2015 at 11:37 am)BrokenQuill92 Wrote:
Quote:but if we were intentionally to neglect the weak and helpless, it could only be for a contingent benefit, with a certain and great present evil. Hence we must bear without complaining the undoubtedly bad effects of the weak surviving and propagating their kind;

This does not sound compassionate to me. This is someone being pussy about killing outright, so he suggest that if we were to die due to neglect it would beneficial though it would be "Technically wrong". Gee such compassion indeed!

I'm not saying you're definitely wrong, but I don't get that vibe from that text.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#37
RE: Do you feel (new) Atheist culture?
(July 29, 2015 at 11:57 am)Faith No More Wrote:
(July 29, 2015 at 11:55 am)Alex K Wrote: Teehee. I don't like Penn Jillette.

Neither do I, now!

Too much of "Bullshit" pissed me off, too...
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#38
RE: Do you feel (new) Atheist culture?
Either Penn or Teller or maybe both made a video deeply criticizing the Americans with Disabilities Act, and then, at the end, as an example of things disabled people are useful for, he had some guy in a wheelchair just popping wheelies. That was annoying (though I'll say I don't always agree with the ADA).
"For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan
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#39
RE: Do you feel (new) Atheist culture?
(July 29, 2015 at 12:39 pm)c172 Wrote: Either Penn or Teller or maybe both made a video deeply criticizing the Americans with Disabilities Act, and then, at the end, as an example of things disabled people are useful for, he had some guy in a wheelchair just popping wheelies. That was annoying (though I'll say I don't always agree with the ADA).

I was specifically thinking of the ADA episode, too. Finding a disabled person who thinks the ada completely sucks is not a valid argument against it imo. In PJs fantasy world, all companies would provide special facilities and accessibility measures by the sheer power of the free market, and if the don't they must obviously be superfluous I guess. I thought that was ridiculous.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#40
RE: Do you feel (new) Atheist culture?
(July 29, 2015 at 10:45 am)BrokenQuill92 Wrote: "At some future period not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes...will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest Allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as the baboon, instead of as now between the Negro or Australian and the gorilla"

I was curious what the source of that was, so I took a bit of it and did an online search.  This was at the top of the list:

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Notable_Ch..._misquotes

I think you might want to read that page.

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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