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RE: Why Christianity?
July 31, 2015 at 8:31 pm
Convinced (I'm going to assume, correct me if I'm wrong) by an entire childhood of being called Muslim by parents who decided that for him before he was born, and surrounded by other Muslims. By chance though Islam is the religion that feels right to him, what a nice coincidence.
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RE: Why Christianity?
July 31, 2015 at 8:34 pm
(July 31, 2015 at 12:14 pm)Lek Wrote: You atheists reject all religions because you don't believe there is a God. I believe Jesus is who he said he is. If this is true then all other religions are incorrect.
How could Jesus say who he was when his name of "Jesus" didn't even exist until the 1600s?
One thing is 100% true and that is no deity of any kind has ever done anything godly since the first con man created it.
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RE: Why Christianity?
July 31, 2015 at 8:44 pm
(July 31, 2015 at 8:31 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: Convinced (I'm going to assume, correct me if I'm wrong) by an entire childhood of being called Muslim by parents who decided that for him before he was born, and surrounded by other Muslims. By chance though Islam is the religion that feels right to him, what a nice coincidence.
I was non-Muslim for 5 years, it's been less then a year I've been Muslim again.
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RE: Why Christianity?
July 31, 2015 at 8:46 pm
Should have quit while you were ahead. Have you seen a doctor? Meds might help.
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RE: Why Christianity?
July 31, 2015 at 9:09 pm
(July 31, 2015 at 1:14 pm)Godschild Wrote: (July 31, 2015 at 12:04 pm)abaris Wrote: But I guess if you had been brought up in Jerusalem or Bagdad or Mumbai, you would have been provided with a different phone number. And you would have probably felt the same.
Nope, you should read more carefully, God called me. Like I've said I do not live on speculation of what might have been, it's a waste of time. What has happened has happened and I'm glad of it, you should remember that I don't speculate I'm tired of having to remind you of this.
GC If God called you then you are a prophet, right? So what did he say to you? Have you written it down? Did he give you any magical powers? Can you turn a stick into a snake? Can you walk on water? Can you raise the dead? When God first spoke to you did you roll yourself up into a carpet? Did he tell you to sacrifice someone to prove your faith? Can you levitate a mountain? Did he put you into the mouth of a whale for three days? Tell us what happened so that we won't think that you are a lunatic.
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RE: Why Christianity?
July 31, 2015 at 9:15 pm
(July 31, 2015 at 8:14 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (July 31, 2015 at 7:50 pm)Minimalist Wrote: That is an enormous IF that you have to get over.
Not really, I've discussed logical reasons in other threads that make it obvious to me that God would reveal books, and send Messengers.
You have done nothing of the sort.
Every single one of your logical reasons contain fallacies.
You are just too invested in your beliefs to see them.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Why Christianity?
July 31, 2015 at 9:21 pm
(July 31, 2015 at 8:44 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (July 31, 2015 at 8:31 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: Convinced (I'm going to assume, correct me if I'm wrong) by an entire childhood of being called Muslim by parents who decided that for him before he was born, and surrounded by other Muslims. By chance though Islam is the religion that feels right to him, what a nice coincidence.
I was non-Muslim for 5 years, it's been less then a year I've been Muslim again.
Yes but even then, why back to Islam instead of going to Christianity, Buddhism, Paganism?
Because Islam is what you are familiar with, because of your upbringing. It's not because it's more true than any other religion.
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"Ironically like the nativist far-Right, which despises multiculturalism, but benefits from its ideas of difference to scapegoat the other and to promote its own white identity politics; these postmodernists, leftists, feminists and liberals also use multiculturalism, to side with the oppressor, by demanding respect and tolerance for oppression characterised as 'difference', no matter how intolerable." - Maryam Namazie
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RE: Why Christianity?
July 31, 2015 at 9:25 pm
(July 31, 2015 at 8:46 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Should have quit while you were ahead. Have you seen a doctor? Meds might help.
Min's playing with you regarding the meds. Nobody's invented an anti-stupid pill yet.
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RE: Why Christianity?
July 31, 2015 at 9:37 pm
(This post was last modified: July 31, 2015 at 9:38 pm by Mystic.)
(July 31, 2015 at 9:21 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: (July 31, 2015 at 8:44 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I was non-Muslim for 5 years, it's been less then a year I've been Muslim again.
Yes but even then, why back to Islam instead of going to Christianity, Buddhism, Paganism?
Because Islam is what you are familiar with, because of your upbringing. It's not because it's more true than any other religion.
That's your assumption. One reason I was hesitant to become Muslim again, is because I felt I had a bias towards it. So I felt do I want to believe in it because I was born into it. And this prevented me from becoming Muslim for a while (even having solved the issues of Quran). However, rational reasons lead me back to this religion.
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RE: Why Christianity?
July 31, 2015 at 9:46 pm
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(July 31, 2015 at 8:14 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Not really, I've discussed logical reasons in other threads that make it obvious to me that God would reveal books, and send Messengers. My bold.
Do you have any idea why He doesn't send DVDs or MP3s?
Did He get tired?
Perhaps can't handle the tech?
If his 7th century .txt ramblings were perfect, should we give up all this newfangled internet stuff and go back to animal skins and ink?
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat? 
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