How Do You Get Over Death?

[Hisham Hasan]

Death is very common around me .. It's life what I'm worried about

[Qwraith]

Obviously you are behind in the new theories of the universe.  The mainstream thought is that space-time itself 'exploded', not a singularity and yes, it may very well be infinite in size with infinite matter.


I ignored what?

How the hell do you include flat=infinite? And also, I am not flat, yet I live in something that is?

Here's the relevant article: http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/uni_shape.html

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Look, I want to live forever and experience the breadth and depth of humanity's voyage through the universe. There are so many things we don't understand about the universe and the fact that I know I won't be around to know them is very frustrating.

Forever? Hopefully you did not actually mean that. First of all, that would be impossible due to the impending heat death, and second, that would be absolutely TERRIBLE. Everyone you ever loved or will love will die while you continue living. You would go through genocides, and wars, and devastating natural disasters. You would watch the most brilliant people wither away and die. Living forever is DEFINITELY something I would never wish of doing.

Sorry for the late reply: Why would heat death make it impossible to live forever? All that stuff, granted to a lesser degree than what would entail with an inifinite life, happens during anyone's life. Loved ones can die within your lifetime, disasters can happen in your lifetime; everybody dies.
Life is suffering to be sure, but that doesn't mean I'd rather end it all than get to experience the remnants of pleasure and happiness in between.

[Shuffle]

How the hell do you include flat=infinite? And also, I am not flat, yet I live in something that is?

Here's the relevant article: http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/uni_shape.html

Shuffle
Forever? Hopefully you did not actually mean that. First of all, that would be impossible due to the impending heat death, and second, that would be absolutely TERRIBLE. Everyone you ever loved or will love will die while you continue living. You would go through genocides, and wars, and devastating natural disasters. You would watch the most brilliant people wither away and die. Living forever is DEFINITELY something I would never wish of doing.

Sorry for the late reply: Why would heat death make it impossible to live forever? All that stuff, granted to a lesser degree than what would entail with an inifinite life, happens during anyone's life. Loved ones can die within your lifetime, disasters can happen in your lifetime; everybody dies.
Life is suffering to be sure, but that doesn't mean I'd rather end it all than get to experience the remnants of pleasure and happiness in between.

Yeahhhhhhh.... um I am still not getting the whole flat=infinite thing.

How would the heat death NOT make it impossible to live forever. It is CALLED the heat DEATH. DEATH ends LIFE.

[Qwraith]

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Here's the relevant article: http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/uni_shape.html



Sorry for the late reply: Why would heat death make it impossible to live forever? All that stuff, granted to a lesser degree than what would entail with an inifinite life, happens during anyone's life. Loved ones can die within your lifetime, disasters can happen in your lifetime; everybody dies.
Life is suffering to be sure, but that doesn't mean I'd rather end it all than get to experience the remnants of pleasure and happiness in between.

Yeahhhhhhh.... um I am still not getting the whole flat=infinite thing.

How would the heat death NOT make it impossible to live forever. It is CALLED the heat DEATH. DEATH ends LIFE.

The universe is flat because the measurements taken of the CMB suggest that the angular distance from our instruments to points on the CMB are about 1 degree across. This means that the path taken between these points is straight. If the universe were curved the path would be curved. This video explains it better than I can:

https://youtu.be/zqb1lSdqRZY

Further observations of the density of the CMB suggest that the most distant galaxies are moving away from one another at an increasing rate. The universe is inifinite in the sense that it will reach an inifinite volume because it doesn't show any signs of slowing down.

If mainstream science is indicative of anything, it's the misappropriation of common terms to make concepts more readily understandable. Just because it's called "heat death" doesn't mean it has anything to do with the actual death of life. Of course, life as we understand it, can't occur without energy, but the heat death doesn't say anything about the prospect of humanity somehow conserving that energy. Sure, it's just wild speculation, but it seems absurd to suggest life couldn't necessarily continue after the heat death given that we don't understand everything about the universe, humanity's capabilities, or life for that matter.

[Shuffle]

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Yeahhhhhhh.... um I am still not getting the whole flat=infinite thing.

How would the heat death NOT make it impossible to live forever. It is CALLED the heat DEATH. DEATH ends LIFE.

The universe is flat because the measurements taken of the CMB suggest that the angular distance from our instruments to points on the CMB are about 1 degree across. This means that the path taken between these points is straight. If the universe were curved the path would be curved. This video explains it better than I can:

https://youtu.be/zqb1lSdqRZY

Further observations of the density of the CMB suggest that the most distant galaxies are moving away from one another at an increasing rate. The universe is infinite in the sense that it will reach an infinite volume because it doesn't show any signs of slowing down.

If mainstream science is indicative of anything, it's the misappropriation of common terms to make concepts more readily understandable. Just because it's called "heat death" doesn't mean it has anything to do with the actual death of life. Of course, life as we understand it, can't occur without energy, but the heat death doesn't say anything about the prospect of humanity somehow conserving that energy. Sure, it's just wild speculation, but it seems absurd to suggest life couldn't necessarily continue after the heat death given that we don't understand everything about the universe, humanity's capabilities, or life for that matter.

But the thing is, it can't spread to infinity, because there is not an infinite amount of energy. There are no signs of slowing down because the only time frame we have been in this universe is so crazily small, that we have seen pretty much nothing happen, let alone the continuing results of the big bang.

Nothing can happen after the heat death. If there is complete entropy, nothing can move, come into existence, or be a different temperature than EVERYTHING else in the universe. Exactly how can you live in those conditions.