No it's not just hair!

[Brakeman]

Yes, that is crazy. Crazy enough to be unbelievable. I'd seriously like to see the citations for that claim. Of course during slave days black women were forced to do anything and everything, and pre-sixties racism was so prevalent that nothing like that would raise an eyebrow, so sticking to the more modern turn of the century, I would find that extremely hard to believe. Aren't you skeptical about this claim? Why not?


Just saying it's not racist when it's a feeling of "possession" based solely on race is disingenuous. You do know that "people of color" are just simply humans that can be just a racist as any white man. There is absolutely no meaningful difference between you and her. If she says that there is something wrong with you wearing any particular hairstyle her "race based club" has laid claim to she is making a racist statement.

Look at the converse. If you had written that there is something wrong with BQ for trying to take a white girl's hairdo and that she is trying to "steal" some of your "culture", you would definitely be a racist. You would be claiming that the white race "owns' certain hairstyles and that black girls have to be making a statement or participating in mockery just by choosing the style.

Hairdo's are not owned by any race. Races don't own anything. Spending inordinate time trying to "classify" people with a particular style or physical attribute is definitely racism in my book.
While it is racist to go to the mall in black-face because it is blatant mockery, a hairdo is not mockery.

First and foremost, I do not, did not claim anything of the sort. And the last time I checked braids, fros, locs, and twists are associated with black female beauty. To say otherwise is totally disingenuous. And I'm not classifying anything! These styles can only be done with coarse curly hair, which 99.9% of the time with black people you nitwit.
And I also see you didn't bother to read that a black woman using "white girl" hairstyles isn't about style. It's about survival! Or did you miss that part too?

Survival? Life or death?? Have you ever heard of hyperbole?

Confirmed citation is clearly needed! Something in this decade please! I would really like to know where any employer demands that black woman style her hair in a way that is generally inconsistent with her hair type.

Why would I be interested in seeing this citation? Because that would be a blatant example of racism that is generally not acceptable in today's society. Instead of posting about a example of real, confirmed racism act against a black person, the post is about a white girl "stealing a 'sista's style?" Really?

You say that "'fros. Locks, and twists are "associated" with black female beauty. "Associated?" Do you mean "racially associated?"  So a normal human girl that has been "officially declared a WOC" by her "peers" should be wearing "Fros, locks, or twists" to be considered a black female beauty? 

My ex-wife was a Peruvian Indian woman and I marveled at her beautiful coarse hair. It was as thick as the hair on a horse's tail. In all of my world travel I've never seen any people with more coarse hair than the Incan peruvians. I am sure her hair was twice as course as any you might have, so despite her hair being super straight, do all of her coarse hairstyles steal from the so called "black beauty culture?" Is she racist too? I've spent quite a bit of time in the far east too. I have seen lots of natives there with "afros, locks, and twists."

Should this Malaysian girl wear her hair straightened and colored or would she be stealing from your black "association club" if she wore her hair in a 'fro? Is she "Color" enough to get your racial approval?


what about this girl?
She's from the same tribe..

How about this native Hawaiian,  Is she "stealing a black girl's style" too or does black racism only apply to girls with pale skin?




If this Native American hadn't been dead 100 years you could have bashed him for stealing your club's dreadlock style too.



Someone once said that they have a dream that people would be judged by something other than the color of their skin.
He also said:

The dream
I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed - we hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal.
I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave-owners will be able to sit down together at a table of brotherhood.

Too bad he didn't understand that the brotherhood that he dreamed of would be blocked by the racial exclusion of white women to this brotherhood by the "WOC."

If one of your Kin were a "WOC" but happened to be born with "straighter" hair that wasn't quite as course as your's you would never have thought to criticize her for using one of your special "WOC" hairstyles, but a white girl with the same type of hair would get "dissed" simply because her skin color didn't make it into your "racial club."
That is racist whether you want to admit it or not.

[Ravenshire]

Whoaa! I thought this post wast going to be about her love of Donald Trump's hair! I guess it's close.

Personally I think BQ's being a bit racist here. It's ok for a black girl to have a particular hairstyle that a white girl gets questioned about?

I think it stems from BQ's feelings of being in a club that sees outsiders as insincere interactors that copy the club's uniform.

As a white man, i don't feel that way about the black ladies that happen to pick popular hairstyles of white women because I'm not in a club or "Brotherhood" among other whites. I would never have such a feeling that my race "owns' a particular hairstyle.  I would go as far as to say Donald Trump's hair is alien to the human race though..


The club's not all that exclusive you know..

The first video that BQ posted made some excellent points that I, as a white woman, would have not known. I had no idea that black women were sometimes required by their employers to straighten their hair. That is crazy. No, BQ isn't being racist. It sounds like white women get praised as edgy and cool for wearing the same hairstyle that black women will be criticized for wearing even though it is the natural hair type for people of African descent.

Wouldn't it make more sense to bash the people doing the praising/criticizing than the people wearing the hair styles?!? It is just hair, Do whatever the fuck you want with it.

[Jenny A]

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.  Really.  Just take a deep breath and leave it at that. 

Besides, the kinky hair is not just a black phenomenon.  Here is Anne Lamotte, a once wonderful writer who now writes novels so Christian I despair reading them.

She's white and blond.  Here is her hair in it's natural state:



Here's how she wears it since a couple of black girl friends taught her how to deal with the kinky hair she didn't like:



Should she straighten it because she's white?  May she not wear dreadlocks?

[Regina]

I really do take issue with dreadlocks in particular being claimed by any one particular race, saying that as someone who at one point was seriously considering getting them myself (although didn't in the end).

All dreadlocks are, are clumps of hair that have knotted up and matted together through a lack of grooming, and it will happen naturally to any human with any hair texture if they don't comb their hair for so long. Sure, some peoples' dreads will form quicker than others and everyone's will look different based on their hair texture, but I don't think you can claim something that anyone can achieve naturally as something that is "x people's culture".

I can see an issue with the fact that lots of people don't wash their dreadlocks (which is unnecessary, dreads actually form quicker and nicer looking on clean hair, contrary to popular belief). However that's not just a white people problem, lots of white people don't wash their dreads, but I've seen some scratty dreadlocks also not-gracing the scalps of black people too. I think it's just more noticeable when white people don't wash theirs, you can really see it's dirty from a mile away.

[CapnAwesome]

Hyperbole goes both ways. I don't think Brokenquill is saying there should be a law against white people styling their hair this way. White people styling their hair like black people always look like crap. White people don't look good with dreadlocks and don't look good with this garbage. It is totally ironic that afros aren't really acceptable until white yuppies start doing it. Give me a break.

[CapnAwesome]

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.  Really.  Just take a deep breath and leave it at that. 

Besides, the kinky hair is not just a black phenomenon.  Here is Anne Lamotte, a once wonderful writer who now writes novels so Christian I despair reading them.

She's white and blond.  Here is her hair in it's natural state:



Here's how she wears it since a couple of black girl friends taught her how to deal with the kinky hair she didn't like:



Should she straighten it because she's white?  May she not wear dreadlocks?

She looks pretty ridiculous in the second picture.

[Jenny A]

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Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.  Really.  Just take a deep breath and leave it at that. 

Besides, the kinky hair is not just a black phenomenon.  Here is Anne Lamotte, a once wonderful writer who now writes novels so Christian I despair reading them.

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She's white and blond.  Here is her hair in it's natural state:



Here's how she wears it since a couple of black girl friends taught her how to deal with the kinky hair she didn't like:



Should she straighten it because she's white?  May she not wear dreadlocks?

She looks pretty ridiculous in the second picture.

I'd agree.  But it's her hair.

[Regina]

I feel like saying "white people don't look good with this garbage" is an opinion, but ok, that's your opinion. I do find it very interesting that you refer to black hairstyles as "garbage" though, a bit questionable.

[CapnAwesome]

I feel like saying "white people don't look good with this garbage" is an opinion, but ok, that's your opinion. I do find it very interesting that you refer to black hairstyles as "garbage" though, a bit questionable.

Let me clarify, they look like garbage on white people with light hair. It looks unnatural, sort of like white hispanic women dye their hair blonde. It's not that dying your hair blonde is garbage, but it looks like garbage on some people.

[Regina]

All that is still your opinion, which you have a right to, but it holds no weight in whether people should actually do it. I've seen people of all races with hairstyles I really don't think suits them, but am I going to go up to them and say "why have you dyed your hair blonde when you look like Michelle Obama?"? No, that's a jackass thing to do.

And oh "it's unnatural!" - Yes just like living in a house, wearing clothes and keeping yourself warm with central heating. If "natural" is what you care about, ditch all your personal belongings and go live in the nearest forest.