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Energy created nor destroyed.
August 8, 2015 at 2:39 am
Hello,
I was debating with a Christian friend of mine resently and she had an interesting thought about how god religion ect. Exist. She states that sense the soul, what makes us who were are, are electrical and chemical instances in our brian, essentially energy, that sense energy can noy be created nor destroyed then thqt proves that when the physical body ceased to exist the 'soul' of a person lives on by energy. In that she stated that that proves religion and afterlife are real. So i ask for any thoughts on the matter as i personally think it's a bit to far fetched.
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RE: Energy created nor destroyed.
August 8, 2015 at 2:44 am
(This post was last modified: August 8, 2015 at 3:11 am by Lucanus.)
When you die, the chemical energy that your brain and body use simply dissipates. It is not destroyed, rather, it is passed on to the various small lifeforms that help our body decompose.
"Every luxury has a deep price. Every indulgence, a cosmic cost. Each fiber of pleasure you experience causes equivalent pain somewhere else. This is the first law of emodynamics [sic]. Joy can be neither created nor destroyed. The balance of happiness is constant.
Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.
Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.
Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.
Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."
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RE: Energy created nor destroyed.
August 8, 2015 at 2:51 am
When energy passes through the food chain, it is used and transformed into other types of energy, and so the amount of energy decreases with every level of the food chain. When you die, the saprofites eat your body and absorb whatever energy there was left. It isn't destroyed, simply passed on again.
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RE: Energy created nor destroyed.
August 8, 2015 at 3:00 am
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The mind is not the energy itself, but lies in the structures which the energy forms, and *they* can be destroyed: while Energy is conserved, Entropy is not, and Entropy is a more relevant quantity for the purposes of this discussion.
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RE: Energy created nor destroyed.
August 8, 2015 at 3:10 am
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"Every luxury has a deep price. Every indulgence, a cosmic cost. Each fiber of pleasure you experience causes equivalent pain somewhere else. This is the first law of emodynamics [sic]. Joy can be neither created nor destroyed. The balance of happiness is constant.
Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.
Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.
Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.
Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."
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RE: Energy created nor destroyed.
August 8, 2015 at 4:29 am
No evidence for any continued existence after death, the body cools, giving it's heat to the surroundings, the chemical energy in the body (and brain) is passed to the bacteria that decompose it (or to the flames in a cremation).
After death you will only exist in the memory of those who knew you, asking where you go after that is like asking where the music goes when the band stops playing
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RE: Energy created nor destroyed.
August 8, 2015 at 4:43 am
(August 8, 2015 at 2:39 am)uniquepegasister Wrote: I was debating with a Christian friend of mine resently and she had an interesting thought about how god religion ect. Exist. She states that sense the soul, what makes us who were are, are electrical and chemical instances in our brian, essentially energy, that sense energy can noy be created nor destroyed then thqt proves that when the physical body ceased to exist the 'soul' of a person lives on by energy. In that she stated that that proves religion and afterlife are real. So i ask for any thoughts on the matter as i personally think it's a bit to far fetched.
Energy cannot retain a pattern without the use of matter.
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RE: Energy created nor destroyed.
August 8, 2015 at 6:40 am
In my post I don't distinguish between energy and matter...
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RE: Energy created nor destroyed.
August 8, 2015 at 6:47 am
(August 8, 2015 at 2:39 am)uniquepegasister Wrote: Hello,
I was debating with a Christian friend of mine resently and she had an interesting thought about how god religion ect. Exist. She states that sense the soul, what makes us who were are, are electrical and chemical instances in our brian, essentially energy, that sense energy can noy be created nor destroyed then thqt proves that when the physical body ceased to exist the 'soul' of a person lives on by energy. In that she stated that that proves religion and afterlife are real. So i ask for any thoughts on the matter as i personally think it's a bit to far fetched.
Take a stick of dynamite. Light the fuse. Run away. After the tremendous bang, go back and look for your stick of dynamite.
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RE: Energy created nor destroyed.
August 8, 2015 at 6:49 am
(August 8, 2015 at 6:47 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (August 8, 2015 at 2:39 am)uniquepegasister Wrote: Hello,
I was debating with a Christian friend of mine resently and she had an interesting thought about how god religion ect. Exist. She states that sense the soul, what makes us who were are, are electrical and chemical instances in our brian, essentially energy, that sense energy can noy be created nor destroyed then thqt proves that when the physical body ceased to exist the 'soul' of a person lives on by energy. In that she stated that that proves religion and afterlife are real. So i ask for any thoughts on the matter as i personally think it's a bit to far fetched.
Take a stick of dynamite. Light the fuse. Run away. After the tremendous bang, go back and look for your stick of dynamite.
Boru
I think that's what it would look like if the Mythbusters began to tackle philosophical questions 
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The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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