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RE: Fact, every single german nazi was a christian
October 13, 2015 at 2:07 pm
(October 13, 2015 at 2:02 pm)Deepthunk Wrote: (October 13, 2015 at 12:44 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: TheRocketSurgeon: "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Deepthunk: I would ask you not to quote Nietzsche to me again.
I'm sure I'll be sorry I asked, but what's your issue with having Nietzsche quoted to you?
because that was hitler favorite philosopher, that's why he quoted him and that's why I found it offensive.
Guilt by association then? Really?
Wagner was Hitler's favorite composer. Suppose Ride of the Valkyries is offensive to you too?
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RE: Fact, every single german nazi was a christian
October 13, 2015 at 2:18 pm
(October 13, 2015 at 2:07 pm)Neimenovic Wrote: (October 13, 2015 at 2:02 pm)Deepthunk Wrote: because that was hitler favorite philosopher, that's why he quoted him and that's why I found it offensive.
Guilt by association then? Really?
Wagner was Hitler's favorite composer. Suppose Ride of the Valkyries is offensive to you too?
Not really, I found it offensive that he chose to quote that person given the subject matter. Though to be honest as classical music goes I would prefer Bach if I ever listened to it which I don't.
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RE: Fact, every single german nazi was a christian
October 13, 2015 at 2:19 pm
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RE: Fact, every single german nazi was a christian
October 13, 2015 at 2:27 pm
(This post was last modified: October 13, 2015 at 2:27 pm by TheRocketSurgeon.)
None of us think that Hitler was anything but a Catholic Christian with a lot of weird mysticism elements thrown in. The historical record supports no other conclusion. Those who would paint him as an atheist are morons with a poor grasp of history.
Nietzsche was a vocal opponent of anti-Semites, and would have loathed Hitler and all he stood for. It was Nietzsche's sister, Elisabeth Forster-Nietzsche, who promoted her brother's legacy in order to bolster Hitler's claims to German superiority, and borrowed the concept of the ubermensch into Nazi ideology.
I find it deeply offensive that you would claim that the reason I cited Nietzsche to you was because Hitler liked him. If you can find someone on this earth who loathes Nazis more than I do, I would enjoy meeting them and buying them a beer.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: Fact, every single german nazi was a christian
October 13, 2015 at 2:37 pm
(This post was last modified: October 13, 2015 at 2:41 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
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RE: Fact, every single german nazi was a christian
October 13, 2015 at 3:17 pm
(October 13, 2015 at 2:37 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: You haven't linked to any in this discussion that I've seen that support your claim that he attended a Catholic monastery. That's because there is none, because he never did it, and in order to cover that lack of source material up, you've resorted to personal attacks.
That's bullshit, You didn't look at the links I posted, but here it is in video.
try watching the entire thing, oh and I just said your a Christian posing as an atheist, but I can see why you might consider that a personal attack, I apologize (even though is still think its true)
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RE: Fact, every single german nazi was a christian
October 13, 2015 at 3:33 pm
(October 13, 2015 at 2:02 pm)Deepthunk Wrote: (October 13, 2015 at 12:44 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: TheRocketSurgeon: "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Deepthunk: I would ask you not to quote Nietzsche to me again.
I'm sure I'll be sorry I asked, but what's your issue with having Nietzsche quoted to you?
because that was hitler favorite philosopher, that's why he quoted him and that's why I found it offensive.
There may be a number of issues over which one might disagree with Nietzsche (I do), but don't saddle poor Friedrich with Hitler's cherry-picking and general lack of understanding about what Nietzsche's work meant. That's a little bit like blaming Jesus for the Westboro Baptist group. Any fair reading of Nietzsche can leave no doubt that he would have loathed Hitler, the Third Reich, and everything it stood for.
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RE: Fact, every single german nazi was a christian
October 13, 2015 at 3:36 pm
(This post was last modified: October 13, 2015 at 3:36 pm by Crossless2.0.)
(October 13, 2015 at 2:03 pm)Deepthunk Wrote: (October 13, 2015 at 2:02 pm)Deepthunk Wrote: because that was hitler favorite philosopher, that's why he quoted him and that's why I found it offensive.
guess why such a quote offends me, just take a wild guess.
Ok, I'll go with: Because I haven't actually read Nietzsche's books, don't have any idea what I'm talking about, and think that guilt by association is a respectable way to make a point.
How did I do?
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RE: Fact, every single german nazi was a christian
October 13, 2015 at 3:37 pm
Catholic does not equal Christian
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RE: Fact, every single german nazi was a christian
October 13, 2015 at 3:38 pm
(October 13, 2015 at 3:37 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: Catholic does not equal Christian
There's enough idiocy in this thread already. We'll call you when more is required here.
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