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DEBUNKING THE CONSPIRACY THEORY
RE: DEBUNKING THE CONSPIRACY THEORY
Anthony Flew was raised Methodist and converted to deism, not christianity (afaik).
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(August 17, 2015 at 7:47 am)Randy Carson Wrote: I'm aware of the distinction and how the laws are being crafted and used to punish people who do not accept the LGBT agenda.

What's funny - and I'm sure you will appreciate the humor in this - is that in a democratic country, where christians proudly proclaim themselves a majority, to the point of calling themselves a "christian nation" - devout christians, like yourself have to resort to throwing childish tantrums against things they don't approve of (like gay marriage, or teaching of evolution) - because they're incapable of getting their way through democratic process, ruled by majority. Now, THAT's irony.


(August 17, 2015 at 7:47 am)Randy Carson Wrote: Just out of curiosity, why would a gay couple even WANT a cake baked by a Christian store which is openly hostile to the whole event?

Uhm, perhaps it could be the only cake shop in town? Not all the gays live in San Francisco, you know. And if it's not a cake shop - it's something else, . If you allow bigots of whatever profession to discriminate - that'll just lead to segregation. Keep your bigotry in church.

(August 17, 2015 at 7:47 am)Randy Carson Wrote: [...]Weddings are stressful enough without this hassle...why don't gay couples just choose gay florists and avoid the media circus?

Yeah... Why didn't black people simply choose "black" universities, restaurants and drinking fountains, right?
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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(August 17, 2015 at 7:40 am)Randy Carson Wrote:
(August 16, 2015 at 3:11 pm)robvalue Wrote: Randy: I apologize for saying you stole from CS Lewis, that was a bit harsh. As for the rest of the discussion, I can't be bothered anymore.

Apology accepted.

Of all the people currently active in this forum, rob, I predict you are the one MOST likely to accept Christianity at some point in your life.

FWIW.

Haha You don't know our valuable rob very well, do you?

But I do like that phrase "accept Christianity". Kind of like buying a house as is, sight unseen. Notice the phrases you could have used, but didn't: "understand Christianity", "come to the logical conclusion of Christianty". No, "accept Christianty" is more fitting.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:

"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."

For context, this is the previous verse:

"Hi Jesus" -robvalue
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I assume Randy meant it as a compliment, so I'll take it as such.

But I'm afraid he is way off there. I'd have to have a complete personality/critical thinking breakdown to ever bow to a whole system of superstition. The idea of worship itself is also obscene to me. I wouldn't do it even if I thought christanity had any significant truth.

This goes for all religions (except FSM of course, the only logical god).
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Hmmm... I dunno... I heard catholics can tell, if you're a closeted "cathy". They have a "god-ar"...
They also have their version of grindr.com. It's called - grindr.com...

Tongue
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I'll get me coat...
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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(August 17, 2015 at 7:47 am)Randy Carson Wrote: I'm aware of the distinction and how the laws are being crafted and used to punish people who do not accept the LGBT agenda.
What, you mean the 'human equality' agenda? It's not just exclusive to the LGBTQQIAAP community you know. Bigotry and discrimination must be opposed by the law in any civilised society. I guess that would make your vision of christian theocracy uncivilised.

Quote:Just out of curiosity, why would a gay couple even WANT a cake baked by a Christian store which is openly hostile to the whole event?

Are they being rewarded financially by the courts? Are they just engaging in their own brand of civil rights activism like refusing to sit in the back of the bus?

Weddings are stressful enough without this hassle...why don't gay couples just choose gay florists and avoid the media circus?

What nutter said.
Sum ergo sum
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(August 16, 2015 at 2:49 pm)Randy Carson Wrote:
(August 16, 2015 at 2:28 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote: They sure are. At least - christians can't legally torture and burn people, who disagree with them anymore.

Yeah, all these new-fangled ideas watering down the true gospel.

I can't remember the last time I went to a good heretic burning...of course, neither can anyone else in the last, oh, I dunno, four hundred years or so. [Image: rolleyes.gif]

In an ironic twist of history, however, gay atheists can now legally punish people (bakers and florists and others) who refuse to participate in their pagan wedding celebrations.

How evil of those homosexuals to punish bakers and florists by complaining about being persecuted by the bakers and florists.



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(August 16, 2015 at 3:08 pm)Randy Carson Wrote:
(August 16, 2015 at 3:08 pm)Exian Wrote: Yeah, I've heard this "cart before the horse" bit before concerning Jesus' existence and the resurrection. The problem is the cart is more like a train, and the horse is an invisible pink unicorn.

Did Jesus exist or not?

No.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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(August 17, 2015 at 1:30 pm)Stimbo Wrote:
(August 16, 2015 at 3:08 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Did Jesus exist or not?

No.

/thread?
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I still don't know how naturalistic causes for the resurrection can be ruled out, if scientists can't actually study Jesus' resurrected body. Damn, that sounds erotic.  Jesus
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