DEBUNKING THE CONSPIRACY THEORY

[Fidel_Castronaut]

It's impossible to 'rise' from the dead until it's proven beyond doubt that it's not. Until then, it's all nonsense.

The end.

[Randy Carson]

It's impossible to 'rise' from the dead until it's proven beyond doubt that it's not. Until then, it's all nonsense.

The end.

What is your explanation for the five minimal facts (accepted by atheist and theist scholars alike) which we examined here?

[Mister Agenda]

Wouldn't it be more properly known as A conspiracy theory? There are lots of conspiracy theories.

[Mister Agenda]

It's impossible to 'rise' from the dead until it's proven beyond doubt that it's not. Until then, it's all nonsense.

The end.

What is your explanation for the five minimal facts (accepted by atheist and theist scholars alike) which we examined here?

They're not actually facts. Facts aren't just widely accepted, they're indisputable. Being indisputable is what makes something a fact. There's very little in the way of accounts for which no original manuscripts survive from two millenia ago that is indisputable.

[brewer]

Wow, notice that it took only one additional post to change from "five factors" to "five facts". You naughty monkey. 

Is this resurrection day? Seen some necro posts, Randy is back.

[Pizza]

We've been over this. "5. Jesus' tomb was found to be empty" is not a fact agreed upon by historians. End.

[robvalue]

Couldn't care less if it was found empty anyway. There's still plenty of explanations for that, even assuming it happened, which are humongously more probably than "magic zombie man".

If you used this level of scepticism in other departments you'd sell your house for 5 quid because a bloke warns you an asteroid is going to hit it.

[Jenny A]

Many people believe that the Apostles knew that Jesus had not really risen from the dead and that they fabricated the accounts of his resurrection.

Who are these many people?  And do you really think that showing that such a conspiracy is unlikely gets you any further towards proving the resurrection because:

1) No matter how unlikely such a conspiracy might be, it is still much more likely than a man returning from the dead;
2) Many groups of people have believed they have seen miracles that are easily explained;
3)  Many, many people, particularly grieving people hallucinate recently deceased loved ones;
3) People do wake up in the morgue and it is possible that not only his followers but Jesus believed he rose from the dead;
4) And the Gospels don't portray an accurate account of why and when Jesus was believed to have returned from the dead.

Known as the Conspiracy Theory, this claim, if true, would mean that the Apostles engaged in a secret plan to preach publicly that Jesus had risen from the dead while knowing privately that his resurrection had never happened.

Seems rather unlikely though stranger things have happened.  Joseph Smith got numerous witnesses to sign documents stating that the same him translating the golden tablets.  

Those who specialize in uncovering conspiracies have identified five factors which help to maintain a successful conspiracy:

1. A small number of conspirators
   
2. A short time frame that the conspiracy must be maintained
   
3. Excellent communication between conspirators
   
4. Familial connections between conspirators
   
5. Little outside pressure or effort to break the conspiracy
   

Let’s take a look at each of these factors to see how they might or might not apply to a conspiracy concerning Jesus’ resurrection.

Before you even think about apply those factors, remember that what we have written in the Gospels is so far from accurate in the details that we have no idea how many disciples there were let alone how well they knew each other.  Explain how it is that we know enough about such a conspiracy to apply the factors and we'll talk.  Until then it's a pointless exercise.

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Small number of conspirators

A conspiracy depends on secrecy, and the smaller the number of people involved who could “spill the beans”, the more likely it is the secret can be maintained. The ideal number of conspirators is two. In fact, in a perfect scenario, two people would agree together to commit a crime, and then one would kill the other thereby improving the odds of the secret being maintained.

In the case of the resurrection, there were eleven Apostles of Jesus who acted as co-conspirators, as well as many others—possibly hundreds—who claimed not merely to have heard about the resurrections but actually to have seen Jesus after the resurrection. Obviously, a number of this size is not conducive to maintaining a conspiracy effectively. It is possible, but it just doesn’t seem very probable.

Short time frame that the conspiracy must be maintained

In an ideal situation, the conspiracy only needs to be maintained for a short amount of time. The longer the silence must be sustained, the more likely it is that someone will break it.

So, if, as is alleged by some skeptics, the disciples conspired to tell a false tale about the resurrection of Jesus, how long did they maintain their silence about this secret plan? The last Apostle to die was John who died of natural causes around the year AD 95—more than 60 years after the resurrection. Like all of the others before him, John went to his grave preaching the resurrection of Jesus. 60 years is a long time, and again, while it is possible that a large group of disciples could maintain silence for six decades, it is not probable that they could have done without the absolute certainty that they had seen the risen Jesus.

Excellent communication between conspirators

After a conspiracy has been initiated, it is important for the participants to maintain good communication with one another so that they may respond uniformly to questions from outsiders seeking to gain information. Skilled investigators seeking to uncover a conspiracy will usually seek to isolate the parties so that they cannot collaborate on responses to questions. Additionally, an experienced investigator will also attempt to convince one party that another has confessed the truth—even when this confession has not actually happened. This ploy puts pressure on the one being questioned to break the silence. When one conspirator believes that others have already confessed, the odds of breaking the conspiracy are greatly increased.

After persecution of the Church began in Jerusalem, the apostles were scattered in different directions and as far away as India, and in the first century, fast, effective communication between the apostles over long distances was not possible. When each individual apostle was confronted by local authorities, held for questioning and eventually martyred for their beliefs, there was no way for him to know with certainty whether one or more of the other apostles had denied the resurrection. Despite this isolation and the lack of communication among the Apostles, none of them ever recanted or admitted to being part of a conspiracy to teach a false message about Jesus’ resurrection.

Familial connections between conspirators

When close family ties exist between conspirators, there is greater incentive to maintain the conspiracy and protect a loved one. When there are few or no family connections, it is less likelihood that the conspirators will maintain the conspiracy.

Among the apostles, there were some family connections; however, it is also true that some apostles had no relatives among the inner circle. Therefore, though it is possible that individuals who were not related to one another were motivated to maintain the conspiracy to protect others in the group, it is more probable that the lack of blood relations would have weakened the bonds of the group over time. While it is possible that the Apostles had grown close as a group during Jesus’ three-year public ministry, it is not probable that this experience alone would account for the maintenance of an alleged conspiracy when non-family members had not seen each other for decades after the persecution which began in Jerusalem and continued later in Rome had scattered them to various corners of the Roman Empire and beyond.

Little outside pressure or effort to break the conspiracy

When a conspiratorial group faces little or no opposition or challenge, it is easier for the group to remain true to the conspiracy. However, when pressure is brought to bear upon the group or individual members, the chances of maintaining the conspiracy are reduced.

Almost immediately following the day of Pentecost when the Apostles publicly preached the resurrection of Jesus in Jerusalem, opposition to the fledgling church began to grow. The apostles were arrested, thrown into prison, questioned by the Jewish leaders, beaten, and ultimately martyred for their belief that Jesus had appeared to them. Yet, despite the sufferings and hardships they endured, the Apostles did not waiver in their preaching of the resurrection of Jesus. Once again, while it is possible that the persecution they endured only served to strengthen their resolve to maintain a conspiracy, it is more probable that the Apostles remained true to their convictions because they knew the resurrection of Jesus to have been a true event.

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Summary

We have looked at the five factors that contribute to the success of a conspiracy, and we have seen that while it is possible that a group could successfully conspire to preach falsely that Jesus had been raised from the dead., the fact that none of the five factors seems to apply the Apostles suggests that it would be highly unlikely that the group would be able to take a secret of such great magnitude to their graves. That they did just that indicates that it is more probable than not that the Apostles were telling the truth concerning the appearances of the risen Jesus.

But we don't really know how many apostles there were, exactly who they were, or what they did immediately after Jesus' death.  So your above analysis isn't particularly useful.

But even if we did accept the Gospels as an accurate description of what happened than you have have another conspiracy to explain because despite claims that hundreds of people saw Jesus,  people rising  out of their graves and the sun going dark when he died, many, many locals did not believe.  Did they have their own conspiracy to suppress the resurrection?  If so, it's even more unlikely than the straw man you've spent this OP trying to knock down.

[robvalue]

Has God or Jesus done anything since then? If not, they're not very relevant are they. This is the most recent thing people think they can reasonably demonstrate. Pretty laughable.

[Iroscato]

Everybody, just stay absolutely still. Their vision is based on movement...