STUDY: Want ‘sustained happiness’? Get religion.

[Aractus]

[Ravenshire]

Whether people are happier with religion (which these studies fail to show) ...

Incorrect. Multiple studies have shown it and I provided a list of them from the reference list in the Croezen et al. 2015 article. Your beliefs are just as blind as any religious zealot when you refuse to accept published evidence, and then trash-talk scientific papers without even having read any of them.

And your assumption that I haven't read the paper is just as bad as any theists claims that atheists are merely angry at gawd.

Yes, I was incorrect. I should have stated that the papers fail to prove that religion makes people happier the all other secular activities. I misspoke.

[Whateverist]

I'd be interested in how "sustained happiness" is being defined. Equanimity can be sustained, but I'm not sure about euphoria.

Aractus, from your reading of the paper do you recall if a definition was given?

[Aractus]

As I mentioned that particular paper is concerned with depressive disorders not overall happiness or for that matter any other specific mental disorders. You have to realise that these papers have huge value when it comes to healthcare because it provides a foundation for what needs to be delivered for individual patient care. Providing patients suffering from depressive disorders with the regular opportunity to practise their religious beliefs seems to be a very important tool to help their health. And it's not just depressive disorders, yes this specific paper deals with depressive disorders, but it can also help stave off dementia and other non-communicable illnesses. Happiness will follow because healthier people are happier people.

I should note however that I've seen no evidence that converting to religion will provide the effect, and I would assume that the effect would be strongest for people who have deeper religious beliefs and practises, and I wouldn't think simply converting to religion would have any health effect, at least not immediately.

[Godscreated]

Wow, Sherlok, who would have guessed?

We examined whether changes in different forms of social participation were associated with changes in depressive symptoms in older Europeans.

You are aware that religion is only one kind of social participation? Also, did you read or acknowledge this?

Participation in religious organizations may offer mental health benefits beyond those offered by other forms of social participation.

I mean the bolded part. May...

In evolutionist propaganda, may means an undisputed fact.

GC

[Godscreated]

I find my participating in social gatherings lowers my happiness and increases my anxiety. I also get headaches, stomach aches, an nausea until I get home, and that's just hanging out at a friends house.

Sounds like the snacks were bad to me.

GC

[abaris]

In evolutionist propaganda, may means an undisputed fact.

GC

Care to give any examples where the word may is used as scientific fact?

Still waiting by the way.

[Redbeard The Pink]

Wow, Sherlok, who would have guessed?


You are aware that religion is only one kind of social participation? Also, did you read or acknowledge this?


I mean the bolded part. May...

In evolutionist propaganda, may means an undisputed fact.

GC

Established scientific facts don't require propaganda.

[Godscreated]

In evolutionist propaganda, may means an undisputed fact.

GC

Established scientific facts don't require propaganda.

That's why evolution has so much propaganda devoted to it, and words like may, could be, if, might be and ect.

GC

[Godscreated]

In evolutionist propaganda, may means an undisputed fact.

GC

Care to give any examples where the word may is used as scientific fact?

Still waiting by the way.

It's in all the propaganda and apparently the propaganda and the deceptive wording is working on some.

GC