islam is dying out

[The Grand Nudger]

Kosher for muslims.

[WinterHold]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Nazi_Germany

There is even a wonderful link to the National Reich Church proposal -within- that link.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_Reich_Church

Your chosen link, your evidence.....establishes my point.  Thank you.  Next time..read the fucking things you link.

And  you, believed what Hitler said ?
Already having anti-church men surrounding him, and you actually believe what he said ?

.politicians "LIE". Sorry to break it up to you this way, but they lie. Not knowing that, means that you have a long road ahead of you to study politics..

If we take what hitler said as the truth then....what he said about the Jews was true !!!

Now, why would it take a sociopath to correct you on your misunderstandings of why we nuked japan?  You clearly didn't know why, now you do.  You may not agree with nuking japan, I may not agree with nuking japan...but that has nothing to do why the US, in WW2, nuked Japan......We did it because we could, because the alternatives were worse, and because we could not justify choosing those alternatives to our populace.  

It was actually a pretty weighty decision - a great deal has been written about it.  That you had a misunderstanding has nothing to do with the availability of knowledge..if you wanted to know better...you would know better - you just don't.  

Never will I understand. NEVER. Those children, the videos I saw about the victims of the fallout, the radiations and what they did..that was a decision, only taken by a cold blooded killer that knows no mercy. I will never understand, rather I will fight all the way for this mentality to be putted down.

So nuked, and blamed Japan ?
Just like invading Iraq, then blame Saddam ?

Let the war be fought, and let the soldiers (who are armed, trained and ready) to rot in the trenches..but never take it to the little ones, to the kids !!! you melted them on purpose ! it was a terrorist attack, the largest in history !!! a weighty, terrorist attack !

I don't believe it, they declare it.  End of. 

If you believe what people declare so blindly, then you should believe what Mohammed peace be upon him declared.

If you have a problem with people throwing their religions into the center of shit where it might not belong.....the problem isn't with me..you realize?  I'm not the one who decided to throw their religions to the center......they are.  

Finally ! YES ! so it's all about "THEM". not about the "faith itself".

It's always "THEM";humans. religious, atheists, whatever, humans do crimes, not books.

Things you've posted pictures to, on the internet...are "behind closed doors"?  Doesn't seem to be behind closed anything......

No, Bush and Abdullah were both dorks, I told you, they can't act..Obama would never fall in such "narrow position".
You can guess what happens behind "closed doors" from the aftermath.

"Cough cough" when you see the Saudi army receiving training by American generals and receiving M4 carbines.

I'm not the one blaming it on their religions.  They're blaming it on their religions.........you appear to have some sort of disagreement, with them...as to who's more muslimyn. You -both- look pretty muslimy, to me.  You're both -more- muslimy than me, we can say that at the very least.  They say they do "x" for islam...you disagree.  Too bad, they're the ones doing it, that you wouldn't do it in your islam is irrelevant as to why they would do it in their islam.

I corrected you; it's "Moslymyn" with an "N".

And of course, isn't that the story of humanity ?
check this verse from the Quran :

( 118 )   And if your Lord had willed, He could have made mankind one community; but they will not cease to differ.

( 119 )   Except whom your Lord has given mercy, and for that He created them. But the word of your Lord is to be fulfilled that, "I will surely fill Hell with jinn and men all together."

That's our story; we always differ..the problem is : when certain people start to turn crazy and kill those who oppose them in thought.
What a sad story. But with our deaths it shall end, then our lord will judge us. Nuking those children wasn't worth it after all.

Work on your rank; I shall work too, Rythem

[TrueChristian]

Praise god!

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[The Grand Nudger]

And  you, believed what Hitler said ?

-again..if you took the time to read the link you provided, you will see that the stats weren't taken from hitlers mouth, but how people self declared in a variety of studies.  Hitlers ultimate aims or goals is irrelevant.  He had a product to sell, the public bought it.  It appealed to them.  If "The Nazis" were just Hitler and his opinions, they would have been a fair bit easier to deal with.  As in, we would have hit one guy on the head with a brick.  Because his product appealed, we had to hit alot of guys on the head with bricks.  

Never will I understand. NEVER. Those children, the videos I saw about the victims of the fallout, the radiations and what they did..that was a decision, only taken by a cold blooded killer that knows no mercy. I will never understand, rather I will fight all the way for this mentality to be putted down.

The american people had been subjected to pictures of their own children burning in twisted piles of metal.   Our enemy did not seem to be interested in mercy, though...it almost certain that both bombs killed fewer people than any invasion ever would have. I don't know if that quite goes over the bar of mercy, but it flirts with it.  

So nuked, and blamed Japan ?
Just like invading Iraq, then blame Saddam ?

We didn't have to blame anyone, the japanese claimed credit for their victory at Pearl..................?  Sometimes I wonder whether anyone, yourself included, has any idea what you're rambling about.

Let the war be fought, and let the soldiers (who are armed, trained and ready) to rot in the trenches..but never take it to the little ones, to the kids !!! you melted them on purpose ! it was a terrorist attack, the largest in history !!! a weighty, terrorist attack !

Actually it wasn't.....it wasn't even the largest such attack in WW2 coming only from ourselves.   The fire bombing of Dresden comes to mind.  Dresden's death toll was higher than both Hiro and Nag combined.  

If you believe what people declare so blindly, then you should believe what Mohammed peace be upon him declared.

Apparently the followers of mo haven't agreed as to exactly what that is yet, hence ISIS.  When you guys figure that out get back to me.  

Finally ! YES ! so it's all about "THEM". not about the "faith itself".

They -are- the faith, dipshit.  No them, no faith.  

I corrected you; it's "Moslymyn" with an "N".

Okay, if you think that enhances a made up adjective.....I'll allow it, lol?

check this verse from the Quran :

Sorry, I'm not in the market.

Obviously I didn't respond to your entire post.  It's been edited for conspiracy theories and general lunacy.

[robvalue]

Praise god!

No. You're fevered preaching is wasted here.

[WinterHold]

-again..if you took the time to read the link you provided, you will see that the stats weren't taken from hitlers mouth

Mmmmm Rythem..you yourself quoted from my link :

Hitler never portrayed himself and the Nazi movement to the German people as outspoken proponents of atheism, but rather as faithful Christians.[24][25] He publicly declared: "We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity ... in fact our movement is Christian."

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( Sura 12 Verse 103 )   And most of the people, although you strive [for it], are not believers.

[The Grand Nudger]

You're completely disconnected from this conversation at this point, aren't you?

[Dystopia]

Right yes, because Nazi Germany was so secular, making a God out of Hitler. Same for Communist Russia with Stalin. The USA is not a secular country in practice either, however much it loves to claim it is, neither is The UK technically. The only truly secular country involved in The World Wars was France, and France only became involved in either because it was pretty much dragged in. The World Wars were not "secular" wars, they were wars brought about by religious-like nationalism.

And my point still stands that where there is religious conflict (I never said all wars, I said "holy wars"), then 99 times out of 100 you can expect at least one, and often more than one, of the Abrahamic Messianic religions to be at the centre of it. If you hear something in the news about a person being killed for offending religious sensibilities, we know which religion the butthurt killer belonged to before they even say it. So you can get off your moral high-horse because that particular religion is yours. If you gave as much of a shit about innocent people getting squashed by your religion as you appear to do about the atomic bomb, you could stop fundamentalism dead in it's tracks. Instead you're arguing with me about my alleged "double standards", laughable.

I'm always curious to know why people equate nationalism with religion as if you could somehow blame religion for more evils if you said X or Y country were very nationalistic. Both world wars weren't fought because of religion, and neither was the cold war. If you ask me, I think the biggest cause is liberalism in its model back then. Nazism and fascism were reactions to the failure of liberalism, so was communism. The first world war was fought due to conflicts between nations, because thanks to liberalism and the industrial revolution anyone wanted to be a superpower. There's not much in it that has to do with religion. Equating dictatorships with religion is wrong because dictatorships might not be religious and might work differently from religions - To start with the obvious, at least dictators were real people, not fictional, so it makes sense to worship a president if you believe he truly is your savior.

[The Grand Nudger]

Religion gets implicated in these things insomuch as it inserts itself or is thrust into it by those involved.  Noticing how often that is, how pervasive - after the fact..is hardly revolutionary.  To say, for example, that christianity had no hand in the Reich - would be absurd.  We're talking about some awfully high order anti-semites here......who overwhelmingly self declared as christians, wrote it into their party..and referred to it as justification for the things they would do...even left us with belt buckles cleverly and succinctly expressing their sentiments on the matter.

What more should they have done to convince us?  Are we not satisfied?

[miaharun]

Kosher for muslims.

That's fine but the way i have heard it is that you have to preach something and then killing is ok or permitted. and the animal is pure or something. However i have heard that the original quran states that who ever is killing the animal must stand on hot coal so that he or she can feel the same pain the animal does. i don't think that practice is there anymore.