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No More Anti-Theists
#31
RE: No More Anti-Theists
People unnecessarily burdening language with faux meaning in order to charge a windmill make communication tedious.
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#32
RE: No More Anti-Theists
(August 28, 2015 at 7:20 am)Cato Wrote: People unnecessarily burdening language with faux meaning in order to charge a windmill make communication tedious.

Why would you want to charge a windmill? 

They aren't even electric.
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#33
RE: No More Anti-Theists
(August 27, 2015 at 10:41 am)robvalue Wrote: I think you just want as many labels as possible Tongue

I bet she's ticklish and hairy too! Shy
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#34
RE: No More Anti-Theists
I think everyone complaining that antitheist sounds like you're against theists is using the word wrong. Antitheist describes the person, whereas antitheism describes the belief, in much the same way that atheist describes the person and atheism describes their beliefs, and I dont see anyone complaining that atheist sounds like you're without theists.

I would also say that people who write antitheist as their religious views dont understand the difference either. They might be an antitheist but their religious views are antitheism.

It's not very often I give people lessons in grammar lol.
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#35
RE: No More Anti-Theists
Yeah, cheesemaker makes much more sense Wink
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#36
RE: No More Anti-Theists
I knew someone was going to say thatBig Grin
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#37
RE: No More Anti-Theists
*rolls up sleeves

Right, definitions time, everyone. Antitheism (noun - per. 'antitheist'):

1. 'In opposition to theism'. This is a general term which can be applied to any scenario which sits in opposition to theism (e.g. a religious person may express a position which is antitheistic, often in relation to other religions). It can be applied specifically ('that theistic claim is wrong') or generally ('I think all theisms are wrong').

2. 'Disbelief in theistic propositions'. This is the specific counter-claim to theistic propositions; the claim that 'no god/s exist'. Also known as Gnostic or Strong atheism. This can be expressed specifically ('Shiva doesn't exist') or generally ('There's no such thing as gods')

3. 'Opposed to organised religion'. This is a position that, once again, can be espoused by religious/irreligious alike (although it's more likely to be pagan or deist religionists rather than theists).
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#38
RE: No More Anti-Theists
(August 27, 2015 at 10:18 am)Shuffle Wrote: The title is pretty misleading so stay with me. Everyone that has Anti-Theist for their "Religious Views" should remove it.

I had that as my "Religious Views" until right now when I realized that a theist can be anti-theist. So, when you put that on your profile, you really aren't saying anything about your views on god. It would be pretty confusing if a flood of anti-theist christians came on this forum, because we wouldn't know the difference.
I describe myself as an anti-theist because the question of what others believe - whether a God exists or not - is not really important. It's the ignorant delusions, and how their belief about God effects the decisions they make in the actual world, that I'm against.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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#39
RE: No More Anti-Theists
(August 28, 2015 at 8:43 am)Nestor Wrote:
(August 27, 2015 at 10:18 am)Shuffle Wrote: The title is pretty misleading so stay with me. Everyone that has Anti-Theist for their "Religious Views" should remove it.

I had that as my "Religious Views" until right now when I realized that a theist can be anti-theist. So, when you put that on your profile, you really aren't saying anything about your views on god. It would be pretty confusing if a flood of anti-theist christians came on this forum, because we wouldn't know the difference.
I describe myself as an anti-theist because the question of what others believe - whether a God exists or not - is not really important. It's the ignorant delusions, and how their belief about God effects the decisions they make in the actual world, that I'm against.

like being nice to others? or trying to give the extras one has to people that don't have them?  kind of decisions? 

Just sayin.

I understand ya, but the point is that anti-theist is a blanket statement and many horrific crimes have taken place because of "blanket claims".
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#40
RE: No More Anti-Theists
(August 28, 2015 at 9:06 am)comet Wrote:
(August 28, 2015 at 8:43 am)Nestor Wrote: I describe myself as an anti-theist because the question of what others believe - whether a God exists or not - is not really important. It's the ignorant delusions, and how their belief about God effects the decisions they make in the actual world, that I'm against.

like being nice to others? or trying to give the extras one has to people that don't have them?  kind of decisions? 

Just sayin.

Yeah, like those. How about being nice because you've thought about good reasons to be nice? Because you value the present life more than one that exists in your imagination?

How is anti-theist a blanket statement? It simply means I'm against theism for its effects that I see as harmful - including the doing of good from ignorant motivations.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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