No More Anti-Theists

[Mudhammam]

And some people are anti demecoracy too.

What happened that made you so against religion?  The numbers don't support total hatred. I mean I had normal parents that followed a religion so we were taught to be nice to people no matter what they believe.  They told me if I don't believe, then be nice because then all we have is each other.  What the fuck did your parents say?

What are you so confused about? Nobody advocated being dicks to others, unless you equate my disdain of certain ideas and the systems that lie underneath with disrespect of the persons captivated by them, which is ridiculous.

[comet]

And some people are anti demecoracy too.

What happened that made you so against religion?  The numbers don't support total hatred. I mean I had normal parents that followed a religion so we were taught to be nice to people no matter what they believe.  They told me if I don't believe, then be nice because then all we have is each other.  What the fuck did your parents say?

What are you so confused about? Nobody advocated being dicks to others, unless you equate my disdain of certain ideas and the systems that lie underneath with disrespect of the persons captivated by them, which is ridiculous.

Its real simple.  The word "disdain" for certain idea's. all groups of people have certain rules they follow that are stupid.  I am not anti-cop because I don't like some of the rules they enforce.  Maybe a little anti-lawyer but I don't even think I would be anti-law.  It good you can see the difference about being a dick to all people of belief.  The more real hope we can offer the less they turn to false hope.


now what brought on "disdain" for you.  I don't like stupid rules, but I do no have 'disdrain", like I said, I had normal crazy parents and a boring life.

[The Grand Nudger]

It's very, very simple.  Anti-theists like Nestor, like myself, see a problem with -theism-.....not organization, not people......theism. That is all that anti-theism means. Perhapds an anti-theist has a problem with organization..or even people...but that's not their anti-theism speaking.

In the same way, atheists don't believe in god. Its not a statement on their position regarding subjective/objective morality. They may have a position on that, but it isn't described by their atheism.

Get it?

[Mudhammam]

Its real simple.  The word "disdain" for certain idea's. all groups of people have certain rules they follow that are stupid.  I am not anti-cop because I don't like some of the rules they enforce.  Maybe a little anti-lawyer but I don't even think I would be anti-law.  It good you can see the difference about being a dick to all people of belief.  The more real hope we can offer the less they turn to false hope.


now what brought on "disdain" for you.  I don't like stupid rules, but I do no have 'disdrain", like I said, I had normal crazy parents and a boring life.

Between growing up with fundamentalists and watching how hundreds, if not thousands, think and act, and observing the role religion plays in the world with endless news stories every single day, and searching for the reasons and evidence for this mass delusion, I came to the conclusion - if I may quote a Christian AND a lawyer (): "General insanity shields itself behind the multitude of the insane." Unlike the religious bigots Minicius Felix had to confront, I'm not accusing Christians of eating babies and committing incest; I accuse the vast majority of them for being either intellectually dishonest or lazy, often masked by an arrogance that parades its ignorance on matters of fact and morality, the inevitable result of deriving what it conceives as "absolute truth" and "unquestionable values" from a book that was cobbled together during an era when people thought the world was limited to Europe, Asia, and Africa, all of which was surrounded by the Ocean, and that people, whose intellects they believed were housed in the heart, go down to Hades, located in the center of the Earth, or up into outer space, when they die.

C'mon, son.

[Shuffle]

??? I am sorry, but I don't really understand what you just said.

Not all theists are religious.

Doesn't that help my point?

[Shuffle]

It's very, very simple.  Anti-theists like Nestor, like myself, see a problem with -theism-.....not organization, not people......theism.  That is all that anti-theism means.  Perhapds an anti-theist has a problem with organization..or even people...but that's not their anti-theism speaking.  

In the same way, atheists don't believe in god.  Its not a statement on their position regarding subjective/objective morality.  They may have a position on that, but it isn't described by their atheism.

Get it?

"it typically refers to direct opposition to organized religion"

Get it?

[Cato]

You can be a christian, hindu, muslim, atheist, fairiest, unicornist, apatheist, deist, habolobodingdongist, or whatever the else you want through in -ist onto. You literally can be ANYTHING accept a part of a organized theism, and still be an anti-theist.

So fucking what?

This rare species of believer has absolutely no bearing on "anti-theist" perfectly describing my religious views.

Just an observation; I would have expected one that obsesses so over definitions to understand the difference between 'except' and 'accept'.

[Shuffle]

You can be a christian, hindu, muslim, atheist, fairiest, unicornist, apatheist, deist, habolobodingdongist, or whatever the else you want through in -ist onto. You literally can be ANYTHING accept a part of a organized theism, and still be an anti-theist.

So fucking what?

This rare species of believer has absolutely no bearing on "anti-theist" perfectly describing my religious views.

Just an observation; I would have expected one that obsesses so over definitions to understand the difference between 'except' and 'accept'.

I am saying that it doesn't differentiate atheists from theists, which could be confusing if we have a new person join the forum.

[Catholic_Lady]

And some people are anti demecoracy too.

What happened that made you so against religion?  The numbers don't support total hatred. I mean I had normal parents that followed a religion so we were taught to be nice to people no matter what they believe.  They told me if I don't believe, then be nice because then all we have is each other.  What the fuck did your parents say?

What are you so confused about? Nobody advocated being dicks to others, unless you equate my disdain of certain ideas and the systems that lie underneath with disrespect of the persons captivated by them, which is ridiculous.

I don't think it was necessarily your disdain of particular ideas that comet was objecting to, but rather the fact that it initially seemed like you were saying religion makes people do bad things, and religious people who do good things are only doing them because of afterlife promises.

[Mudhammam]

I don't think it was necessarily your disdain of particular ideas that comet was objecting to, but rather the fact that it initially seemed like you were saying religion makes people do bad things, and religious people who do good things are only doing them because of afterlife promises.

Oh I see. No, I don't think religious people only do good things for superfluous reasons.