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Did you know, rich Arab countries don't accept the U.N. definition of a refugeee?
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RE: Did you know, rich Arab countries don't accept the U.N. definition of a refugeee?
Tbh what kind of crazy masochist would you be to seek refuge in Saudi Arabia anyway?

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RE: Did you know, rich Arab countries don't accept the U.N. definition of a refugeee?
I've watched a number of interviews featuring people who have fled Syria for Europe. If you ask me, a lot of the people from Syria don't look "radicalized". They are Europe because simply they want to escape the war. Those that are radicalized would stay behind and fight for al-Nusra, al-Qaeda and DAESH.

There are lots of men without the beards and women without any head covering whatsoever amoung the refugees. Granted, they could be Kurds - who are secular - or Christians or Yazidis or Druze but I don't think there is mass radicalization. There are people, such as the Kurds, who are fighting Assad for purely secular reasons and who don't expect the Masih ad-Dajjal will descend upon Damascus.

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RE: Did you know, rich Arab countries don't accept the U.N. definition of a refugeee?
No, the ones fleeing the war are not yet radicalized, but the trauma, rejection and disaffection make a sizeable portion of the good candidates for radicalization in the near future.

I think a sign that a group contains sizeable number of radicalization candidate is the fact they publically give thanks to Allah, not their benefactors, when they are received as refugees.

There is probably a far higher percentage of good candidates for radicalization amongst the refugees than either amongst the very same people before the start of the current Syrian conflict, or amongst the population of the gulf sheikdoms.
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RE: Did you know, rich Arab countries don't accept the U.N. definition of a refugeee?
(September 5, 2015 at 6:17 pm)Chuck Wrote: It means the victims and refugees contains a large percentage of people who, while running away today, is but one minor intellectual hurdle from being radicalized themselves.

Based on what, exactly?
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RE: Did you know, rich Arab countries don't accept the U.N. definition of a refugeee?
(September 6, 2015 at 8:09 am)abaris Wrote:
(September 5, 2015 at 6:17 pm)Chuck Wrote: It means the victims and refugees contains a large percentage of people who, while running away today, is but one minor intellectual hurdle from being radicalized themselves.

Based on what, exactly?

Based on their own traumatic experience and, face it, the comparative lack of success of middle eastern Muslim expatriates to adapt to foreign host cultures. They can't go back home as they are, and a larger than average proportion of them won't fit in well where ever they find themselves. For many of those that won't fit in, the only solution once they discover how unsatisfactorily they would fit in would seem to be to adopt radicalism so they can vicariously go back, sort of.
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