Muslim Flight Attendant Says She Was Suspended

[Minimalist]

So, you're telling me that this woman didn't know she would be serving alcohol when the main part of her job is to serve drinks to the passengers?

This lady is an idiot.

She apparently is a fairly recent convert to islam.  Before that, she did her job.  Seems fairly obvious what the problem is!

[vorlon13]

The airline changed all the rules ??

[sarcasm mode off]

[KUSA]

She will serve a hand grenade but not beer. Stupid Muslim.

[TheRocketSurgeon]

She will serve a hand grenade but not beer. Stupid Muslim.

That's kinda racist, KUSA. Or at least, religiously bigoted.

Being a fundamentalist Muslim, in the sense of trying to follow the literal teachings of the Qur'an to the best of their abilities, doesn't make them inclined to violence any more than it does for those who try to follow the literal wording of the Bible (which is, by the way, far more violent than anything I read in the Qur'an). Violent radicalism is a cultural/social thing, which their religious leaders are all too happy to take advantage of for their own continued empowerment.

Is this flight attendant an asshole? Totally. As has already been pointed out, the Qur'an prohibits personal consumption of alcohol by believers, but it has nothing to say about serving it as part of your job, and her Imam should correct her on this element of her theology before she makes the rest of them look any worse.

We can attack the tenets of Islam without making unfair connections between the common practice of even the fundamentalist adherents with the actions of those who believe in the social medievalism still rampant in the Middle Eastern, African, and south Pacific societies where Islam's unfortunate anti-science/thinking patterns have not been broken by an Enlightenment, in the way it happened for western nations previously under the Christian hegemonies that maintained that same medievalist darkness and social structure for centuries.

I'm no more a fan of Islam than any other stupid religion, but I do know many Muslims who are good-hearted people of excellent personal and moral character, in real life. They would find this woman as ridiculous as I do, and for the same reasons. If we allow ourselves to label all Muslims by the actions of their worst members, then we're the same as the Christians who try to compare all atheists to the radical sub-culture of communism and the actions of guys like Stalin and Pol Pot.

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It dawns on me that, since Islam is ~600 years younger than Christianity, and our Enlightenment was ~400 years ago, that we should expect the Mideast cultures to catch up to us in roughly the year 2215.

[bennyboy]

Her job is not to ride on a plane wearing a granny skirt and a tight bun. It's to serve food and fucking drinks the the customers. If she doesn't want to serve the food and fucking drinks, then she's not doing her (pretty basic) job. It's like if I work at McDonald's but I refuse to serve hamburgers because I'm vegetarian. wtf am I doing there at all?

[robvalue]

Suspend her from the bottom of the plane.

[Thumpalumpacus]

She will serve a hand grenade but not beer. Stupid Muslim.

That's kinda racist, KUSA. Or at least, religiously bigoted.

Good luck with this ... that's KUSA's idea of "being funny".

[vorlon13]

In part, her pay is derived from alcohol sales. Any issue with the filthy lucre there ?

[Minimalist]

She will serve a hand grenade but not beer. Stupid Muslim.

Allah approves of holy hand grenades.

[KUSA]

She will serve a hand grenade but not beer. Stupid Muslim.

That's kinda racist, KUSA. Or at least, religiously bigoted.

Being a fundamentalist Muslim, in the sense of trying to follow the literal teachings of the Qur'an to the best of their abilities, doesn't make them inclined to violence any more than it does for those who try to follow the literal wording of the Bible (which is, by the way, far more violent than anything I read in the Qur'an). Violent radicalism is a cultural/social thing, which their religious leaders are all too happy to take advantage of for their own continued empowerment.

Is this flight attendant an asshole? Totally. As has already been pointed out, the Qur'an prohibits personal consumption of alcohol by believers, but it has nothing to say about serving it as part of your job, and her Imam should correct her on this element of her theology before she makes the rest of them look any worse.

We can attack the tenets of Islam without making unfair connections between the common practice of even the fundamentalist adherents with the actions of those who believe in the social medievalism still rampant in the Middle Eastern, African, and south Pacific societies where Islam's unfortunate anti-science/thinking patterns have not been broken by an Enlightenment, in the way it happened for western nations previously under the Christian hegemonies that maintained that same medievalist darkness and social structure for centuries.

I'm no more a fan of Islam than any other stupid religion, but I do know many Muslims who are good-hearted people of excellent personal and moral character, in real life. They would find this woman as ridiculous as I do, and for the same reasons. If we allow ourselves to label all Muslims by the actions of their worst members, then we're the same as the Christians who try to compare all atheists to the radical sub-culture of communism and the actions of guys like Stalin and Pol Pot.

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It dawns on me that, since Islam is ~600 years younger than Christianity, and our Enlightenment was ~400 years ago, that we should expect the Mideast cultures to catch up to us in roughly the year 2215.

Religious bigotry is what this forum is all about.

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