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The "not all Muslims are terrorists" fallacy
RE: The "not all Muslims are terrorists" fallacy
(September 13, 2015 at 3:29 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:
(September 13, 2015 at 2:21 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't agree with what he's saying, don't get me wrong. And perhaps I'm being a little too defensive of him because he's a friend, and was reacting to him being called an idiot.

I get that, but urging the deaths of folks is obnoxious on its face, friendship or no. Of all people, a bisexual atheist should be attuned to the idea that killing people out of ideology is bullshit.

I agree.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: The "not all Muslims are terrorists" fallacy
(September 13, 2015 at 3:41 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(September 13, 2015 at 3:29 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: I get that, but urging the deaths of folks is obnoxious on its face, friendship or no. Of all people, a bisexual atheist should be attuned to the idea that killing people out of ideology is bullshit.

I agree.

Tan, I said it before and I'll say it again: come to live here longer than 5 years in order to get the whole picture and when you see the attitude the muslims demonstrate for all Bulgarians, only then you can judge me - until then I don't give a sh.t what you or anyone else thinks about me. We give them shelter far from war and for gratitude they kill or rape young Bulgarian girls just because they can and because their sick religion allows them to; as for the Bulgarian men, they see us as some sort of slaves, altough we're far from that in reality. When you talk (or try to talk) to such a pig, he won't let you look at his eyes, if you don't want to be stabbed, which already happened once. Fortunately I don't speak to them even if they speak to me, so I'm not threatened by a horrible meaningless religious death.
As for your last post, it has nothing to do with ideology. It's only about wishing to keep my freedom and my way of life as they are right now. Which will not last long, whenever those sick bastards take over Europe and bring it to its knees.
Laziness is the engine of progress.
~ is where / is.
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Today, on the Onion:
Quote:Hundreds of immigrants crossing into Europe from Africa and the Middle East have risked injury and death seeking a new life for their families. Here is the step-by-step process by which they emigrate and the hardships they face on their journey:

Step 1: Families make spur-of-the-moment decision to leave behind the opportunity, safety, creature comforts, and overall happy existence in their native land to mooch off resources of European governments
Step 2: Pack a few granola bars and a bottle of water for the long trip
Step 3: Human traffickers assure group of immigrants that boat carrying them across Mediterranean is meant to hold this many people
Step 4: Scare the shit out of some sunbathers on a Greek beach
Step 5: Arriving refugees fill out one-part questionnaire on whether they intend to destroy Europe
Step 6: Trudging
Step 7: Migrants blend in by joining a protest disparaging their ethnicity and culture
Step 8: Hightail it through Hungary as quickly as possible
Step 9: Parents traveling with young children repeatedly assure themselves kids’ long-term memory capacity hasn’t kicked in yet
Step 10: Angela Merkel bestows each migrant with their new German name
Step 11: Migrants who fled Islamic terrorists decide to just go ahead and become Islamic terrorists in new country

Loved step 11!
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(September 16, 2015 at 5:43 am)pocaracas Wrote: Today, on the Onion:
Quote:Hundreds of immigrants crossing into Europe from Africa and the Middle East have risked injury and death seeking a new life for their families. Here is the step-by-step process by which they emigrate and the hardships they face on their journey:

Step 1: Families make spur-of-the-moment decision to leave behind the opportunity, safety, creature comforts, and overall happy existence in their native land to mooch off resources of European governments
Step 2: Pack a few granola bars and a bottle of water for the long trip
Step 3: Human traffickers assure group of immigrants that boat carrying them across Mediterranean is meant to hold this many people
Step 4: Scare the shit out of some sunbathers on a Greek beach
Step 5: Arriving refugees fill out one-part questionnaire on whether they intend to destroy Europe
Step 6: Trudging
Step 7: Migrants blend in by joining a protest disparaging their ethnicity and culture
Step 8: Hightail it through Hungary as quickly as possible
Step 9: Parents traveling with young children repeatedly assure themselves kids’ long-term memory capacity hasn’t kicked in yet
Step 10: Angela Merkel bestows each migrant with their new German name
Step 11: Migrants who fled Islamic terrorists decide to just go ahead and become Islamic terrorists in new country

Loved step 11!

I know the article is being funny, but why would you think this isn't being used as opportunity to plant terrorists everywhere? Or that these people will integrate into society at all? Or that less then 20% are islamists?
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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(September 16, 2015 at 6:44 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: I know the article is being funny, but why would you think this isn't being used as opportunity to plant terrorists everywhere? Or that these people will integrate into society at all? Or that less then 20% are islamists?

Right?

All these 'migrants' are here to help and love.
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I wonder why more people don't have a line of thought like this:

"Man, those extremists are mental! And they say all their violence can be justified using the Koran. That's ridiculous, let me see... Oh. They're right. This is a horrible book. Why am I associating with this religion at all? I'm going to make my own version of personal worship, with my own values and my own idea about God. This book is clearly horrific and I should stop endorsing it."

Naive, I know. So naive. I know it's not that simple.
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RE: The "not all Muslims are terrorists" fallacy
(September 16, 2015 at 6:47 am)Napoléon Wrote:
(September 16, 2015 at 6:44 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: I know the article is being funny, but why would you think this isn't being used as opportunity to plant terrorists everywhere? Or that these people will integrate into society at all? Or that less then 20% are islamists?

Right?

All these 'migrants' are here to help and love.
Of course they are. They are 100& moderate liberal Muslims here to enlighten our white culture and if you question that your islamophobic, racist pig Smile
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: The "not all Muslims are terrorists" fallacy
Right. But why do they have to still call it Islam?

If it was me, I'd want nothing to do with the "brand name" at all. I'd just do my own search for truth, so as not to be propping up a particular demented cult.

While they cling to the name and they spread the oral myths about the book somehow being magical, they propagate the problem. They edit the book in their head, but not in reality. If all their beliefs basically contradict what it says in the book, what are they still doing with it?

Naive again, I know. It's all so clear from outside the bubble.
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