Posts: 6990
Threads: 89
Joined: January 6, 2012
Reputation:
103
RE: The "not all Muslims are terrorists" fallacy
September 18, 2015 at 5:30 am
(September 17, 2015 at 11:47 pm)Cato Wrote: (September 17, 2015 at 6:26 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: If you aren't willing to do that then stop whining because people are reacting to a problem that the West caused when it disrupted the peace and tranquility in their countries.
You would have used much less digital space if you said, "I have no fucking clue about Wahhabism".
Lol, "peace and tranquility".
Posts: 981
Threads: 74
Joined: July 1, 2015
Reputation:
10
RE: The "not all Muslims are terrorists" fallacy
September 18, 2015 at 6:38 am
(September 18, 2015 at 5:19 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: So you've got one citation for a plurality of alleged crimes attributed to an entire population?
Quote:This is just one of many rape cases done by Arabs
And this is for you because you're obviously blind. When I have more time to spare, I'll dig out more articles for you to see how many they are and that they're not limited to just 1 or 2 persons.
Posts: 977
Threads: 11
Joined: July 17, 2015
Reputation:
9
RE: The "not all Muslims are terrorists" fallacy
September 18, 2015 at 7:02 am
(September 18, 2015 at 6:38 am)Atheist_BG Wrote: (September 18, 2015 at 5:19 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: So you've got one citation for a plurality of alleged crimes attributed to an entire population?
Quote:This is just one of many rape cases done by Arabs
And this is for you because you're obviously blind. When I have more time to spare, I'll dig out more articles for you to see how many they are and that they're not limited to just 1 or 2 persons.
OK, so, there have been 10's, maybe 100's of rapes since these evil bastards have hit your shores. Terrible, it really is, I feel for the victims and would do damage to the perpetrators if I had half the chance.
But advocating a slaughter of an entire group of people? Have you ever studied history? At all???
You're no better than those forcing themselves on young girls sweetheart, in fact, I'd say you were worse.
Posts: 3101
Threads: 10
Joined: September 7, 2015
Reputation:
49
RE: The "not all Muslims are terrorists" fallacy
September 18, 2015 at 10:15 am
Rape as a weapon of warfare is not limited to the Islamic State psychopaths.
It's well-documented in almost every aggressive war that has ever been fought. Susan Brownmiller did an excellent job of covering the subject in her 1975 book Against Our Will: Men, Women and Rape.
Don't get me wrong, I think ISIL is a cancer caused by the brain virus that is Islamic fundamentalism... but they're not new, unique, or particularly clever. They're such clear psychopaths that Al Qaeda has cut ties with them. That should say all that needs to be said about their legitimacy and actual connection to Islam.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
Posts: 1635
Threads: 9
Joined: December 12, 2011
Reputation:
42
RE: The "not all Muslims are terrorists" fallacy
September 18, 2015 at 10:27 am
(September 8, 2015 at 11:16 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: There maybe a logical fallacy for this all ready, but here is my idea for this
This a logical fallacy commonly made when arguing against the actions of people that follow particular ideology where instead responding appropriately to the argument at hand, you make an erroneous assertion that the argument only applies to a small subset of people. For example
Me: islam is responsible for religious violence per capita then any other religion.
You: but not all Muslims are terrorists!.
"You" is a strawman.
Posts: 3837
Threads: 197
Joined: August 28, 2013
Reputation:
38
RE: The "not all Muslims are terrorists" fallacy
September 18, 2015 at 11:12 am
(September 18, 2015 at 10:27 am)houseofcantor Wrote: (September 8, 2015 at 11:16 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: There maybe a logical fallacy for this all ready, but here is my idea for this
This a logical fallacy commonly made when arguing against the actions of people that follow particular ideology where instead responding appropriately to the argument at hand, you make an erroneous assertion that the argument only applies to a small subset of people. For example
Me: islam is responsible for religious violence per capita then any other religion.
You: but not all Muslims are terrorists!.
"You" is a strawman. It's s curt example as I explained.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
Posts: 1635
Threads: 9
Joined: December 12, 2011
Reputation:
42
RE: The "not all Muslims are terrorists" fallacy
September 18, 2015 at 11:41 am
(September 18, 2015 at 11:12 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: (September 18, 2015 at 10:27 am)houseofcantor Wrote: "You" is a strawman. It's s curt example as I explained.
Doesn't make it less of a strawman. Makes it a troll thread. But reading RS, CL, and Napoleon makes it a good read; the other guy, not so much.
Posts: 23425
Threads: 26
Joined: February 2, 2010
Reputation:
105
RE: The "not all Muslims are terrorists" fallacy
September 18, 2015 at 2:18 pm
(September 18, 2015 at 6:38 am)Atheist_BG Wrote: (September 18, 2015 at 5:19 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: So you've got one citation for a plurality of alleged crimes attributed to an entire population?
Quote:This is just one of many rape cases done by Arabs
And this is for you because you're obviously blind. When I have more time to spare, I'll dig out more articles for you to see how many they are and that they're not limited to just 1 or 2 persons.
... except that you didn't, you know, CITE any others ... dumbfuck.
Also, I notice you dodged my questions. Here, I'll repeat them again. Since you seem to have difficulty detecting hard questions, I've emboldened them:
Quote:As for the locals weaponing up, is that because there is danger, or is that because, like you, they harbor their own bigotries? Judging an entire population by the acts of one man is sloppy thinking, and although you're clearly willing to do that, I'm not. How many Bulgarian criminals are there in your country, and do you delight in the prospect of all Bulgarians being put to death for their acts?
Now, along with more citations, you'll need to answer those questions.
Posts: 3837
Threads: 197
Joined: August 28, 2013
Reputation:
38
RE: The "not all Muslims are terrorists" fallacy
September 18, 2015 at 3:19 pm
(September 18, 2015 at 11:41 am)houseofcantor Wrote: (September 18, 2015 at 11:12 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: It's s curt example as I explained.
Doesn't make it less of a strawman. Makes it a troll thread. But reading RS, CL, and Napoleon makes it a good read; the other guy, not so much.
Well that wasn't my intention. In truth the fallacy I am attempting to describe doesn't even apply to only Muslims. Just they use it most commonly. You could also apply it to people attempting to defend any number of groups such as fundamentalist Christianity or the kkk (don't read that as Muslims are like the kkk, many aren't)
Basically the fallacy is attempting to cover the actions of a given group under the silent majority, in cases where the silent majority is irrelevant.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
Posts: 981
Threads: 74
Joined: July 1, 2015
Reputation:
10
RE: The "not all Muslims are terrorists" fallacy
September 18, 2015 at 7:01 pm
(September 18, 2015 at 2:18 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: dumbfuck ...is your mother.
|