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RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
September 10, 2015 at 4:07 am
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(September 10, 2015 at 1:39 am)robvalue Wrote: Christianity is not just offensive, it's downright sickening. I'm sure I'm not the only atheist who feels this way. The ten commandments (the wrong ones, as only atheists seem to notice) are a perfect example of the egotistical dictatorship. It's shitting in the face of everyone who believes in a fair society which represents the people, and those who want actual separation between church and state. If it's just "my interpretation" that makes the commandments offensive to me, then the same goes for anyone's interpretation of the demon, including its proximity to the commandments. Why is it just offense to Christians that matters?
The Satanists are bringing this to Christian's attention by saying, "You put some of your shit there not caring what anyone thinks about it, then we can too." The correct stance is just to have none of this stuff on public ground, and to be just as against your own religion doing it. I feel confident that if the 10 commandments doesn't get placed, neither does the demon statue.
To prove a point about the blatant favouritism, can you imagine them ever allowing the demon statue to be placed somewhere in public on its own as the commandments have been?
I agree, I find Christianity offensive and obnoxious. The only reason I expose myself to it from time to time is music, in particular J.S. Bach
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
September 10, 2015 at 4:30 am
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(September 10, 2015 at 4:07 am)Alex K Wrote: I agree, I find Christianity offensive and obnoxious. The only reason I expose myself to it from time to time is music, in particular J.S. Bach
My favourate piece of Christian music is Mozart's Requiem, I highly recommend it to any Human with functioning ears. Some of the art and music inspired by Christianity are true masterpieces. Hundreds of years ago the Christians had the likes of Leonardo da Vinci and Bach to offer, who now? No wonder their deity's pissed, the recruits aren't what they used to be.
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. ~ George Bernard Shaw
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RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
September 10, 2015 at 5:25 am
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(September 10, 2015 at 4:30 am)Ashground Wrote: (September 10, 2015 at 4:07 am)Alex K Wrote: I agree, I find Christianity offensive and obnoxious. The only reason I expose myself to it from time to time is music, in particular J.S. Bach
My favourate piece of Christian music is Mozart's Requiem, I highly recommend it to any Human with functioning ears. Some of the art and music inspired by Christianity are true masterpieces. Hundreds of years ago the Christians had the likes of Leonardo da Vinci and Bach to offer, who now? No wonder their deity's pissed, the recruits aren't what they used to be.
Yes, I'll gladly include the Requiem on the list of excuses for Christianity. I've had controversial discussions about Mozart and the Requiem with Pyrrho over in the Classical Music thread 
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RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
September 10, 2015 at 5:34 am
(September 10, 2015 at 4:30 am)Ashground Wrote: Hundreds of years ago the Christians had the likes of Leonardo da Vinci and Bach to offer, who now? No wonder their deity's pissed, the recruits aren't what they used to be.
While I agree there has been some great art, commissioned as well as inspired by christianity, Leonardo isn't the best example. He mostly went against christian dogma in his scientific persuits. Same goes for Michelangelo, obviously.
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RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
September 10, 2015 at 6:36 am
(September 9, 2015 at 11:25 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: (September 9, 2015 at 11:14 pm)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: They picked Satan on purpose because it makes Christians uncomfortable. They could have just as easily picked Cthulu. They want you to be freaked out because it might be the only way to get some people to see how others feel when they're constantly bombarded with messages from a human-sacrifice-centered cult.
When my family (who are mostly Catholic, since I am half-Cajun, on my mother's side, even though she personally converted to Southern Baptist, my dad's faith) start getting too heavily into their human-sacrifice-cult talk, I tend to fire off a quip from Warhammer 40K to let them know how creepy I find their ideas:
"Blood for the Blood God!"
You can dress it up in a suit and tie and a pretty bonnet with bows, but in the end Christianity is a weird combination of a blood-sacrifice cult from the Ancient Near East's desert sheepherder/warrior tribes and amalgamations of the various Pagan ideas in first century Persian, Greek, and Roman cultures. The idea of murdering a man-god as a substitute for a baby sheep sacrificed ritually to placate a Blood God is no more or less creepy than any other pagan idea I have seen, including those of Satan Worshipers (distinct from Satanists). The only difference is that Satan Worshipers are more aware/open/honest about their creepy ideas, and our culture is so heavily-infused with the insanity of Christian doctrines that people don't see just how creepy their most basic ideas really are, when examined from a "fresh sheet of paper", so to speak.
Skulls for the Skull Throne!
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
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RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
September 10, 2015 at 6:40 am
I love Michelangelo! He's probably my favourite. I've been watching the show for years, and I've still never seen his pal David I keep hearing about. Does he call his nunchucks David or something?
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RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
September 10, 2015 at 6:43 am
Also, I keep reading things about how you (Catholic Lady) are uncomfortable with a Christian Symbol for hate and evil being borrowed and used as a mascot because it seems to be a clear act of hostility toward all Christians.
Two things:
First, yes, it's an act of hostility against all Christians. It's supposed to be because it's intended to highlight to Christians how hostile it feels to others to be bombarded with Christian symbols and messages constantly.
Second, Satan is not a Christian symbol. They borrowed him from the Jews, who borrowed him from the Zoroastrians. The Zoroastrians probably borrowed him from someone else.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
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RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
September 10, 2015 at 6:45 am
It's also a reminder that God, supposedly all good, made Satan knowing he would be totally evil. And to this day allows Satan to go around being evil, instead of silencing his powers.
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RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
September 10, 2015 at 7:42 am
(September 10, 2015 at 6:43 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: Second, Satan is not a Christian symbol. They borrowed him from the Jews, who borrowed him from the Zoroastrians. The Zoroastrians probably borrowed him from someone else.
I'm pretty sure they got him from Robert Jordan.
Shai'tan sounds pretty suspicious. 
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: Your thoughts on Satanism and the petition for a Satanic statue.
September 10, 2015 at 7:47 am
Ok, to relax from this strenuous discussion, let's have some worship music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfa9z8qXkgQ
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
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