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RE: Well the universe is dying... slowly... fucking entropy...
September 13, 2015 at 9:06 pm
I suppose heat death is still ok desriptively, but the ultimate disposition of the universe is for it to just keep diluting itself down to nothing as it expands enormously and the stuff in it spreads out thinner and thinner and thinner and thinner and thinner and thinner and thinner . . . . And if there is anything ultimately left in a googleplex years, it will be so cold it will Bose-Einstein condensate itself into nothing too. Not that you'd be able to ever find it because the universe would be so enormously bloated out size wise.
Eventually, instead of approximating empty, it will in fact BE empty, and then, since time goes wonky when there is nothing left for it to impinge upon, we get another Big Bang since empty universes with wonky time flow are unstable and explode.
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RE: Well the universe is dying... slowly... fucking entropy...
September 13, 2015 at 9:07 pm
(September 13, 2015 at 8:10 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Read Asimov's "The Last Question" for a possible way out.
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RE: Well the universe is dying... slowly... fucking entropy...
September 13, 2015 at 10:43 pm
(September 13, 2015 at 9:06 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: I suppose heat death is still ok desriptively, but the ultimate disposition of the universe is for it to just keep diluting itself down to nothing as it expands enormously and the stuff in it spreads out thinner and thinner and thinner and thinner and thinner and thinner and thinner . . . . And if there is anything ultimately left in a googleplex years, it will be so cold it will Bose-Einstein condensate itself into nothing too. Not that you'd be able to ever find it because the universe would be so enormously bloated out size wise.
Eventually, instead of approximating empty, it will in fact BE empty, and then, since time goes wonky when there is nothing left for it to impinge upon, we get another Big Bang since empty universes with wonky time flow are unstable and explode.
the light buld went off thank you vorlorn i could hug you right now. Because the fact being nothing can exist it's a paradox as something has to exist.
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RE: Well the universe is dying... slowly... fucking entropy...
September 13, 2015 at 11:25 pm
The time scale to get there is depressingly long.
Really, really, REALLY long.
Longer than that even.
Really, really, much longer.
And then some.
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RE: Well the universe is dying... slowly... fucking entropy...
September 13, 2015 at 11:29 pm
And we get to have it both ways.
Since the universe will be 'essentially' empty for so VERY, VERY long, and it is only full and fun and lit up and interesting for but an infinitesimally tiny microscopically vanishingly particle of time, on average then, the universe if looked at over a long enough period of time, doesn't amount to anything.
Really.
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RE: Well the universe is dying... slowly... fucking entropy...
September 14, 2015 at 6:35 am
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(September 13, 2015 at 8:58 pm)dyresand Wrote: This begs to question what really happens after entropy and full heat death because infinity or forever at that point even a goggl plex isn't possible maybe..
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RE: Well the universe is dying... slowly... fucking entropy...
September 14, 2015 at 9:40 am
(September 13, 2015 at 11:25 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: The time scale to get there is depressingly long.
Really, really, REALLY long.
Longer than that even.
Really, really, much longer.
And then some. I mean we would already be dead so the concept of time wouldn't matter.
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RE: Well the universe is dying... slowly... fucking entropy...
September 14, 2015 at 10:09 am
In our moments of solitary despair, it should serve to further sadden us . . .
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RE: Well the universe is dying... slowly... fucking entropy...
September 14, 2015 at 11:03 am
(September 14, 2015 at 10:09 am)vorlon13 Wrote: In our moments of solitary despair, it should serve to further sadden us . . .
No it should not. As Epicurus stated:
Quote:Whatever causes no annoyance when it is present, causes only a groundless pain in the expectation.
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RE: Well the universe is dying... slowly... fucking entropy...
September 14, 2015 at 12:48 pm
(September 14, 2015 at 10:09 am)vorlon13 Wrote: In our moments of solitary despair, it should serve to further sadden us . . .
Was trying for a meld of over reaction and maudlin, might have not got the ratio correct . .
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