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RE: Why i don't respect your religion or your faith
September 13, 2015 at 5:01 pm
(September 13, 2015 at 4:57 pm)Napoléon Wrote: (September 13, 2015 at 4:55 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I get what you're saying. But I'm not interested in trying to defend, rationalist, or make excuses for what those people did. The OP said all Christians are A-holes, and I'm also not going to try to change his mind if that's how he feels.
Then you can at least admit a proportion of christians are assholes? Instead of saying "they're not christians" or referring to them as "so-called" christians?
Absolutely. There are many Christians who are A-holes. The reason I referred to those slavers as "so called" is because they are not acting in a way that I personally believe "Christian" to be.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Why i don't respect your religion or your faith
September 13, 2015 at 5:02 pm
I agree with Madison.
Quote:Experience witnesseth that eccelsiastical establishments, instead of maintaining the purity and efficacy of Religion, have had a contrary operation. During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity, in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution.
-- James Madison, A Memorial and Remonstrance Against Religious Assessments, addressed to the Virginia General Assembly, June 20, 1785
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RE: Why i don't respect your religion or your faith
September 13, 2015 at 5:47 pm
(September 13, 2015 at 5:01 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (September 13, 2015 at 4:57 pm)Napoléon Wrote: Then you can at least admit a proportion of christians are assholes? Instead of saying "they're not christians" or referring to them as "so-called" christians?
Absolutely. There are many Christians who are A-holes. The reason I referred to those slavers as "so called" is because they are not acting in a way that I personally believe "Christian" to be. Except that it is very Christian because the bible endorses slavery, what me to quote it?
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Why i don't respect your religion or your faith
September 13, 2015 at 5:54 pm
The reason why there are so few black atheists is the same reason there are so few black gays and gay atheists.
They are minority's, and it would be similar to asking why you haven't gotten 3 sixes in a row after rolling dice 20 times.
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RE: Why i don't respect your religion or your faith
September 13, 2015 at 7:16 pm
(September 13, 2015 at 5:54 pm)Shining_Finger Wrote: The reason why there are so few black atheists is the same reason there are so few black gays and gay atheists.
They are minority's, and it would be similar to asking why you haven't gotten 3 sixes in a row after rolling dice 20 times.
It's not eve that really its the fact that the bad part of tradition that is being religion is being passed down from a era like slavery.
Cult of Dusty has a great video on what i'm talking about even he is pissed off about what i'm pointing out it.
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RE: Why i don't respect your religion or your faith
September 13, 2015 at 7:28 pm
(September 13, 2015 at 5:47 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: (September 13, 2015 at 5:01 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Absolutely. There are many Christians who are A-holes. The reason I referred to those slavers as "so called" is because they are not acting in a way that I personally believe "Christian" to be. Except that it is very Christian because the bible endorses slavery, what me to quote it?
That's exactly what I was thinking. I don't even know if there is a concrete definition of a christian, that can be agreed upon among all people that claim to be true christians.
Although a popular trend with 'christians' is that they do have a twisted and/or skewed view of reality and/or morality.
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RE: Why i don't respect your religion or your faith
September 13, 2015 at 8:07 pm
(September 13, 2015 at 4:07 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: For what it's worth, I too find it extremely sickening what these so called Christians did. And to be so hypocritical as to call their ship "The Good Jesus" is the cherry on top. Of course, these were Protestants. Calvinists many of them. I don't know what role Catholics played in this. Yet many of them were sincere Christians who found biblical support for their actions. There's even a passage in the Mosaic Law giving fathers instructions on how to sell their daughters into sexual slavery (Exodus 21:7,8).
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
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RE: Why i don't respect your religion or your faith
September 13, 2015 at 8:33 pm
(September 13, 2015 at 5:01 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (September 13, 2015 at 4:57 pm)Napoléon Wrote: Then you can at least admit a proportion of christians are assholes? Instead of saying "they're not christians" or referring to them as "so-called" christians?
Absolutely. There are many Christians who are A-holes. The reason I referred to those slavers as "so called" is because they are not acting in a way that I personally believe "Christian" to be.
OK, this occasion, heresy becomes you.
But it's still heresy.
Your edging over to our side, inch by inch, everyday . . .
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RE: Why i don't respect your religion or your faith
September 13, 2015 at 8:42 pm
(September 13, 2015 at 5:54 pm)Shining_Finger Wrote: The reason why there are so few black atheists is the same reason there are so few black gays and gay atheists.
They are minority's, and it would be similar to asking why you haven't gotten 3 sixes in a row after rolling dice 20 times.
All the gay people I know are atheists. Granted I only know 5 gay people.
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RE: Why i don't respect your religion or your faith
September 13, 2015 at 8:44 pm
I've encountered pious ones.
I've stuck my foot in my mouth more than once in their presence.
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