14 y/o Muslim student arrested for bringing "bomb" to school[It was a Clock]

[Catholic_Lady]

[Minimalist]

The only thing that really bothers me about all of this is that the boy is going to get an easy ride now, while other great students will never get such a ride.

"Other students" weren't handcuffed by the fucking cops.

[Neo-Scholastic]

In the meantime what kind of behavior is being reinforced by the captains of industry and the White House? Make a hoax bomb, lie about your ability, disobey school authority, defy law enforcement....and get free college tuition and a date with the Pres.

Can't wait to see what the the next outrage jackpot will bring.

[Tiberius]

Um, Divi Tiberio, if you look through the Fucking Cops thread you'll see that they do that all the time.... mainly if the kids or the old guy are minorities.

Fair enough, the world is already an awful place then, but my point is we shouldn't be doing this.

In the meantime what kind of behavior is being reinforced by the captains of industry and the White House? Make a hoax bomb, lie about your ability, disobey school authority, defy law enforcement....and get free college tuition and a date with the Pres.

Can't wait to see what the the next outrage jackpot will bring.

Let's see:

1) Make a hoax bomb - Not what happened. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't a hoax bomb have to (1) actually look like a bomb, and (2) come with some sort of threat that it's a bomb. Even if the clock did look like a bomb, when the student says "it's a clock", it's not a hoax bomb, because there's no "hoax"; the student is telling you what it is.

2) Lie about your ability - No evidence that he did this either. Again, this is a 14 year old kid we're talking about here. He said he made a clock, which he did. Doesn't matter that he took an existing clock, pulled it apart, and reassembled it in a new case; he still made something, and that something was a clock.

3) Disobey school authority - Again, no real evidence he did this either. Even so, disobeying school authority is not grounds for what the school and the police then did to him. That's the main reason he's going to the White House...because he's been mistreated.

4) Defy law enforcement - No evidence he did this either. The guy was arrested, but I don't see anything about him resisting arrest. He might not have answered the police's questions satisfactorily, but guess what? That's his right! He has a right to remain silent if he wants to. He also had a right to call his parents, but the police didn't allow that, so who's really in the wrong when it comes to defying the law here?

[Minimalist]

All we can do is protest against it, boss.

[BrokenQuill92]

Um, Divi Tiberio, if you look through the Fucking Cops thread you'll see that they do that all the time.... mainly if the kids or the old guy are minorities.

Fair enough, the world is already an awful place then, but my point is we shouldn't be doing this.

In the meantime what kind of behavior is being reinforced by the captains of industry and the White House? Make a hoax bomb, lie about your ability, disobey school authority, defy law enforcement....and get free college tuition and a date with the Pres.

Can't wait to see what the the next outrage jackpot will bring.

Let's see:

1) Make a hoax bomb - Not what happened. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't a hoax bomb have to (1) actually look like a bomb, and (2) come with some sort of threat that it's a bomb. Even if the clock did look like a bomb, when the student says "it's a clock", it's not a hoax bomb, because there's no "hoax"; the student is telling you what it is.

2) Lie about your ability - No evidence that he did this either. Again, this is a 14 year old kid we're talking about here. He said he made a clock, which he did. Doesn't matter that he took an existing clock, pulled it apart, and reassembled it in a new case; he still made something, and that something was a clock.

3) Disobey school authority - Again, no real evidence he did this either. Even so, disobeying school authority is not grounds for what the school and the police then did to him. That's the main reason he's going to the White House...because he's been mistreated.

4) Defy law enforcement - No evidence he did this either. The guy was arrested, but I don't see anything about him resisting arrest. He might not have answered the police's questions satisfactorily, but guess what? That's his right! He has a right to remain silent if he wants to. He also had a right to call his parents, but the police didn't allow that, so who's really in the wrong when it comes to defying the law here?

I thought it was illegal to question a minor without parents or parents attorney present

[Tiberius]

[BrokenQuill92]

[Tiberius]

Oh I'm sure the ACLU will take up the case if Ahmed's family hasn't already.

[Minimalist]

All that means is that anything the kid says while in custody cannot be used against him in court.  It does nothing to prevent the cops from humiliating the kid which seems to have been their prime motivation.