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Personal relationships with deities
RE: Personal relationships with deities
(October 12, 2015 at 3:26 pm)jenny1972 Wrote:
(October 12, 2015 at 3:22 pm)Losty Wrote: What exactly is not believing in god bullshit? Atheist bullshit makes no sense to me, nor does deist bullshit. Theist bullshit definitely exists.

if a psychiatrist does not believe in God that limits the ability to accurately diagnose someone just like a doctor who excludes  all scientific discovery within the last 50 years cannot make an accurate diagnosis because his education is incomplete.

(October 12, 2015 at 3:23 pm)Losty Wrote: You think god exists. It is not a fact and you cannot prove it so there's no sense in saying it as if it were a fact.

also there is no conclusive scientific proof that God does not exist.

You can't prove a negative. Also no scientific evidence exists that the following do not exist:

To save you time on picking one, I suggest the only real god, FSM.  RAmen. Also do you believe in Santa Claus, If not, Why?
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"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming"  -The Prophet Boiardi-

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RE: Personal relationships with deities
(October 12, 2015 at 3:30 pm)Losty Wrote:
(October 12, 2015 at 3:26 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: if a psychiatrist does not believe in God that limits the ability to accurately diagnose someone just like a doctor who excludes  all scientific discovery within the last 50 years cannot make an accurate diagnosis because his education is incomplete.

I disagree. Being an atheist doesn't discount your ability to believe that others can believe in god. People don't get mental diagnosis just for believing in god or even believing that god speaks to them.

Freud diagnosed us believers as having a mental illness

(October 12, 2015 at 3:33 pm)Losty Wrote:
(October 12, 2015 at 3:26 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: also there is no conclusive scientific proof that God does not exist.

It is impossible to prove a negative. In most circumstances we accept a lack of evidence to be a good enough reason to not believe in something. But I never stated there is no god as if it were some sort of fact. You said there is a god. If there is for certain then prove it, if you can't then why do you insist on saying it as if it were a fact?

God has given me proof that God exists if you want to go to an athiest psych go for it you dont believe God exists so that is the diagnosis that you should agree and be happy with , i know that God exists i have witnessed proof and any who lacks that proof and does not know about other possibilities i believe cannot possibly make an accurate diagnosis because they are lacking that information .
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today   FSM Grin   Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one  - John Lennon

The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also  - Mark Twain
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
(October 12, 2015 at 4:01 pm)jenny1972 Wrote:
(October 12, 2015 at 3:30 pm)Losty Wrote: I disagree. Being an atheist doesn't discount your ability to believe that others can believe in god. People don't get mental diagnosis just for believing in god or even believing that god speaks to them.

Freud diagnosed us believers as having a mental illness

Sigmund died in 1939, or did you mean Anna? Lucian was a painter so if you meant him well no one values his medical diagnosis.

(October 12, 2015 at 4:01 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: God has given me proof that God exists if you want to go to an athiest psych go for it you dont believe God exists so that is the diagnosis that you should agree and be happy with , i know that God exists i have witnessed proof and any who lacks that proof and does not know about other possibilities i believe cannot possibly make an accurate diagnosis because they are lacking that information .

If god has given you proof then feel free to share with the class. If you can't share it then I don't think it counts as proof.

Personally I never ask my psychiatrists or other doctors about their religious preferences. A doctor with any medical integrity will not allow her religious views to influence her job.

What diagnosis are you talking about that I would agree with and be happy with?

Everything you said after that made no sense.
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
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To save you time on picking one, I suggest the only real god, FSM.  RAmen.   Also do you believe in Santa Claus, If not, Why?
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because santa clause did not prove his existence to me and God did

Quote:Freud diagnosed us believers as having a mental illness

Sigmund died in 1939, or did you mean Anna? Lucian was a painter so if you meant him well no one values his medical diagnosis.

many many many psychiatrists believe and respect everything that Freud believed hes the grandfather of modern psychiatry

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If god has given you proof then feel free to share with the class. If you can't share it then I don't think it counts as proof.

Personally I never ask my psychiatrists or other doctors about their religious preferences. A doctor with any medical integrity will not allow her religious views to influence her job.

What diagnosis are you talking about that I would agree with and be happy with?

Everything you said after that made no sense.
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a diagnosis that excluded any possibility of a spiritual experience you would agree and be very happy with since that is your view as well , that God cannot exist . since i know that God does exist i would not want to go to someone who did not have that proof . and so because of their lack of proof they do not believe that it is a possibility
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today   FSM Grin   Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one  - John Lennon

The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also  - Mark Twain
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
(October 12, 2015 at 4:12 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: [quote pid='1081677' dateline='1444678889']
To save you time on picking one, I suggest the only real god, FSM.  RAmen.   Also do you believe in Santa Claus, If not, Why?

because santa clause did not prove his existence to me and God did

Quote:Freud diagnosed us believers as having a mental illness

Sigmund died in 1939
, or did you mean Anna? Lucian was a painter so if you meant him well no one values his medical diagnosis.

many many many psychiatrists believe and respect everything that Freud believed hes the grandfather of modern psychiatry

[quote pid='1081691' dateline='1444680545']
If god has given you proof then feel free to share with the class. If you can't share it then I don't think it counts as proof.

Personally I never ask my psychiatrists or other doctors about their religious preferences. A doctor with any medical integrity will not allow her religious views to influence her job.

What diagnosis are you talking about that I would agree with and be happy with?

Everything you said after that made no sense.
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a diagnosis that excluded any possibility of a spiritual experience you would agree and be very happy with since that is your view as well , that God cannot exist . since i know that God does exist i would not want to go to someone who did not have that proof . and so because of their lack of proof they do not believe that it is a possibility
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Freud was indeed very scornful about religion, and the Christian religion specifically.  He wrote many works arguing against Christian tenets.  However, as far as I know, he did not publish studies on religion and mental illness, and therefore made no diagnosis as such.   But you're talking about very early works.  If you want to discuss studies, we should limit them to works published in the last 10-15 years at the most.  

But then, you're probably not here to discuss the current APA's views on religion and mental illness.  

You just seem to be fixated on the idea that your doctor should be a Christian, or perhaps more accurately, a Deist.  I'm sure there are a lot of them out there.   So what's the problem?
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
(October 12, 2015 at 4:12 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: Freud diagnosed us believers as having a mental illness

Losty Wrote:Sigmund died in 1939, or did you mean Anna? Lucian was a painter so if you meant him well no one values his medical diagnosis.

many many many psychiatrists believe and respect everything that Freud believed hes the grandfather of modern psychiatry

I'm missing your point.

jenny1972 Wrote:
Losty Wrote:If god has given you proof then feel free to share with the class. If you can't share it then I don't think it counts as proof.

Personally I never ask my psychiatrists or other doctors about their religious preferences. A doctor with any medical integrity will not allow her religious views to influence her job.

What diagnosis are you talking about that I would agree with and be happy with?

Everything you said after that made no sense.

a diagnosis that excluded any possibility of a spiritual experience you would agree and be very happy with since that is your view as well , that God cannot exist . since i know that God does exist i would not want to go to someone who did not have that proof . and so because of their lack of proof they do not believe that it is a possibility

Why do you think it's ok for you to tell me what I agree with, what makes me happy, and what my views are?
You don't know me.
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay

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Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
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Please stop quoting the butchered quote tags. It hurts my brain.
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
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Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
i do want my doctor to be knowledgeable about what he is diagnosing thats all im saying and if they do not have updated information on my illness i dont want to be treated by them regardless of if it is a MD or any other doctor . an atheist diagnosis is based on incomplete knowledge when dealing with spiritual matters because they dont believe in such things you will get a misdiagnosis . do you want your doctor to be knowledgeable about your condition ?

(October 12, 2015 at 4:46 pm)Losty Wrote: Please stop quoting the butchered quote tags. It hurts my brain.

lol sorry i was trying to shorten it so not to make the mods angry but i did kinda mess it all up didnt i Deadpan
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today   FSM Grin   Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one  - John Lennon

The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also  - Mark Twain
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(October 12, 2015 at 4:12 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: [quote pid='1081677' dateline='1444678889']
To save you time on picking one, I suggest the only real god, FSM.  RAmen.   Also do you believe in Santa Claus, If not, Why?

because santa clause did not prove his existence to me and God did

Quote:Freud diagnosed us believers as having a mental illness

Sigmund died in 1939, or did you mean Anna? Lucian was a painter so if you meant him well no one values his medical diagnosis.

many many many psychiatrists believe and respect everything that Freud believed hes the grandfather of modern psychiatry

[quote pid='1081691' dateline='1444680545']
If god has given you proof then feel free to share with the class. If you can't share it then I don't think it counts as proof.

Personally I never ask my psychiatrists or other doctors about their religious preferences. A doctor with any medical integrity will not allow her religious views to influence her job.

What diagnosis are you talking about that I would agree with and be happy with?

Everything you said after that made no sense.


a diagnosis that excluded any possibility of a spiritual experience you would agree and be very happy with since that is your view as well , that God cannot exist . since i know that God does exist i would not want to go to someone who did not have that proof . and so because of their lack of proof they do not believe that it is a possibility

Mangled the quote feature.  You never gave Santa a chance and how do you know that wasn't Santa in a  god disguise?.  That aside I really hope you understand that the only way of life is through the teachings of FSM, His Son Cheesus and the Apastales.

RAmen.
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming"  -The Prophet Boiardi-

      Conservative trigger warning.
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if santa wouldve kept delivering goodies after i grew up i would totally still believe in him , but he was a proven verifiable hoax , and sorry i dont follow religious doctrines from people i dont personally know .
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today   FSM Grin   Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one  - John Lennon

The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also  - Mark Twain
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