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RE: Personal relationships with deities
October 13, 2015 at 8:37 am
(October 13, 2015 at 5:06 am)ignoramus Wrote: Jen. I like you ...But you are batshit crazy, you know that, right!
My sister Jenny and I have come here to save the world. We are equip with our superpowers, sarcasm and silliness. No, we don't have a shred of evidence to back up our claim...but we have faith (that's believing things that we really can't confirm to be true...perhaps just wishful thinking mixed with a tad of craziness) ...and we have bubble guns filled with love, happiness and smiles and we are not afraid to use them!
did my sister happen to mention that this "god" that came to her said everyone was going to be saved? ...smiles, and blessings, and love, Snowflake and Babyflake :•)
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
October 13, 2015 at 8:46 am
No thank you.
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
October 13, 2015 at 8:52 am
Ahhh, well, can't convince everyone immediately ![[Image: rolleyes.png]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=forums.firefall.com%2Fcommunity%2Fstyles%2Fdefault%2Fxenforo%2Fsmilies%2Frolleyes.png) ...I don't guess
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
October 13, 2015 at 9:43 am
(This post was last modified: October 13, 2015 at 9:55 am by jenny1972.)
(October 13, 2015 at 5:50 am)ignoramus Wrote: C'mon Rob. It's not her we're bashing at all. It's her logic.
Can she at least describe the recipient of this relationship? Or does he talk to her in her voice? What a coincidence?
Rob, you and I know that if there ever was a :God:, he lives outside our detectable universe. But somehow he found a way using symbolisms (snowflake in this case) to communicate to us!
Why snowflakes? What the fuck's wrong with a piece of toast! hehe ...I think you know what I'm saying...
its communication through thoughts not speaking to me in my voice . and how do you know that God lives outside of our detectable universe where do you get that from ?
" Yes, knowledge changes. But we don't call something knowledge until there is adequate evidence that such a thing is real. So I don't know what your point is here. Are you claiming to have more knowledge than us, thus putting us in the "cave man" category? If not, what's the point of such a comparison? Speculating on what may or may not become knowledge is pointless, as this puts every belief on equal footing just because it "might turn out to be true". "
yes exactly those who have adequate evidence that such a thing is real believe and call it knowledge . yes i believe he is saying just that .... however i choose to use the analogy that atheists are like people who once believed the world was flat because thats how it looked .
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today  Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one - John Lennon
The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also - Mark Twain
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
October 13, 2015 at 9:50 am
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(October 13, 2015 at 9:43 am)jenny1972 Wrote: (October 13, 2015 at 5:50 am)ignoramus Wrote: C'mon Rob. It's not her we're bashing at all. It's her logic.
Can she at least describe the recipient of this relationship? Or does he talk to her in her voice? What a coincidence?
Rob, you and I know that if there ever was a :God:, he lives outside our detectable universe. But somehow he found a way using symbolisms (snowflake in this case) to communicate to us!
Why snowflakes? What the fuck's wrong with a piece of toast! hehe ...I think you know what I'm saying...
its communication through thoughts not speaking to me in my voice . and how do you know that God lives outside of our detectable universe where do you get that from ?
It's a bullshit explanation of natural occurences used to prop up an irrational belief. Unless you want to provide some testable, verifiable evidence that your gawd is speaking to you...
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
October 13, 2015 at 10:00 am
(October 13, 2015 at 8:52 am)Hmmm? Wrote: Ahhh, well, can't convince everyone immediately ...I don't guess
You'll convince us when you provide scientific proof. Until you have that, don't waste our time.
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
October 13, 2015 at 10:17 am
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Jenny: Most people define god as being outside our reality to account for the fact that it's nowhere to be found. Can you define "god" in a way that I can distinguish from nothing or a figment of people's imagination?
It's a bad analogy to compare atheism to the belief the earth is flat, because atheism isn't by default a belief. It's a lack of belief. I explain this in detail on my website here  If anything it should be compared to people who wouldn't commit to saying the earth was flat, nor that it was anything else, and were awaiting further evidence.
Some atheists choose to make their own claims of positive belief or knowledge, but it's not a requirement.
Jenny's sister: I'm not sure how much was sarcasm, what are you here to save us from? Or was that banter?
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
October 13, 2015 at 10:19 am
(October 13, 2015 at 10:00 am)drfuzzy Wrote: (October 13, 2015 at 8:52 am)Hmmm? Wrote: Ahhh, well, can't convince everyone immediately ...I don't guess
You'll convince us when you provide scientific proof. Until you have that, don't waste our time.
yes as science and history prove discovery is ongoing and constantly evolving
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one - John Lennon
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
October 13, 2015 at 10:23 am
(October 13, 2015 at 10:19 am)jenny1972 Wrote: (October 13, 2015 at 10:00 am)drfuzzy Wrote: You'll convince us when you provide scientific proof. Until you have that, don't waste our time.
yes as science and history prove discovery is ongoing and constantly evolving
And yet, with all that ongoing searching and discovery all we've ever found are naturalistic explations fo things that used to be seen as acts of gawd(s). Never any supporting evidencee for any gawd claims.
Hmmmmm. Wonder why that is?
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
October 13, 2015 at 10:39 am
(October 12, 2015 at 11:18 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: (October 12, 2015 at 11:17 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Say WHAT? Did you not read the reply? They are required to be certified as medical doctors FIRST. Then they begin to study psychiatry. They focused on the body for four years after a regular college pre-med degree. Everything a psychiatrist does is based upon science.
they might have studied the body but they dont treat the body , they treat the mind .
Are you implying that the mind is separate from the body?
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