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RE: Personal relationships with deities
October 13, 2015 at 4:49 pm
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jenny1972 wrote: "i didnt see any rules stating that the only people who could comment in this thread had to be athiests and discuss from an athiests perspective . where did it say that ? all my comments after the first 2 have been responding to people . i have a target on my forehead because im discussing a personal relationship with a diety in the thread made specifically for that discussion and you disagree with me ? wow ok"
You are free and welcome to comment on any thread you wish. In fact, given the dearth of good comedy clubs in my immediate area, I encourage it.
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
October 13, 2015 at 4:51 pm
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Quote: i have a target on my forehead because im discussing a personal relationship with a diety
No........you're being held to account for failing to provide a convincing demonstration that such a relationship exists, or that you possess it, or that it is correctly called a relationship....while claiming proof(personal proof...ffs), while claiming detection... as you peddle a tagline.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
October 13, 2015 at 5:00 pm
(October 13, 2015 at 4:49 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: (October 13, 2015 at 4:03 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: yes but just because you cannot see something doesnt mean that it doesnt exist . there are invisible gasses swirling around us molecules we cant see yet they exist , why couldnt other things not yet discovered also exist ?
my relationship with God meets all the requirements of the OP other than being observable by others that can percieve it with their eyes.
i didnt see any rules stating that the only people who could comment in this thread had to be athiests and discuss from an athiests perspective . where did it say that ? all my comments after the first 2 have been responding to people . i have a target on my forehead because im discussing a personal relationship with a diety in the thread made specifically for that discussion and you disagree with me ? wow ok
Anyone who is trying to discuss their "personal experiences with god" on an atheist website is either trying to preach or is simply insane. If you want to connect with someone who understands, you won't find it here. If you want to convince us that your experience was not all happening in your head, without scientific proof (which you knew was impossible before you signed up) that's not going to happen. So you have no business here. You're RESPONDING to people because we're all saying "prove it", and you say "I can't but it's real anyway, so there". The discussion should be over at that point. Say "I can't prove it" and move on.
no im giving my honest opinion about this topic from my own perspective . this website consists of Theists , Agnostics and Athiests as well as other viewpoints . this thread is about personal experience with God if i was on a thread about politics i would be talking about politics from my own perspective not an attempt to conform to your opinion or worried about pleasing you in any way .
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one - John Lennon
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
October 13, 2015 at 5:03 pm
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Hey, there's a way out of the mire. Personal -experiences-. Yes! So, I have questions. I had a personal experience with my toaster this morning. I didn't leave that experience thinking that the toaster was god. Could you be convinced that it were?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
October 13, 2015 at 5:36 pm
(October 13, 2015 at 5:03 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Hey, there's a way out of the mire. Personal -experiences-. Yes! So, I have questions. I had a personal experience with my toaster this morning. I didn't leave that experience thinking that the toaster was god. Could you be convinced that it were?
well because i dont think just because something exists that its God just because my computer exists and im experiencing typing on it doesnt mean its God i dont know of any religion or philosophy that does believe that .
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one - John Lennon
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
October 13, 2015 at 5:39 pm
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So there are criteria for you? Certain things a god must be, or cannot be; like toasters or computers?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
October 13, 2015 at 6:00 pm
(October 13, 2015 at 5:39 pm)Rhythm Wrote: So there are criteria for you? Certain things a god must be, or cannot be; like toasters or computers?
actually i think transcendentalism is the belief that God is everything that exists but im not sure . no i dont really have criteria or certain things God must be if a toaster convinced me that it was God somehow then i would believe it was God .
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one - John Lennon
The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also - Mark Twain
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
October 13, 2015 at 6:15 pm
(October 13, 2015 at 6:00 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: (October 13, 2015 at 5:39 pm)Rhythm Wrote: So there are criteria for you? Certain things a god must be, or cannot be; like toasters or computers?
actually i think transcendentalism is the belief that God is everything that exists but im not sure . no i dont really have criteria or certain things God must be if a toaster convinced me that it was God somehow then i would believe it was God .
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
October 13, 2015 at 6:29 pm
(October 13, 2015 at 6:15 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: (October 13, 2015 at 6:00 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: actually i think transcendentalism is the belief that God is everything that exists but im not sure . no i dont really have criteria or certain things God must be if a toaster convinced me that it was God somehow then i would believe it was God .
lol why?
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one - John Lennon
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
October 13, 2015 at 6:33 pm
Ok then . . . "it's a TOAST-ER!!"
Although I don't know which one I would rather worship, the toaster, or Carol Kane as the Ghost of Xmas Present.
Look at those cute wings.
I think I'll go put in a slice of toast and pray real hard to the toaster for guidance.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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