The Paradox of Power....

[drfuzzy]

So now you acknowledge that I have no god beliefs. And stick your childish threats where your priest will find them.

No NO NO No!,you believe that YOU have no belief's,and believing in God is,no childish since there 2.2 billion Christian's in the world ,you can't assume it's childish,as not all them are children.

Yeah yeah, and you're happy that 6 billion people are going to hell because they didn't choose the RIGHT imaginary friend.  Poe.

[Huggy Bear]

It's not like Marco Polo was exaggerating, either. Oh, [url=http://www.smithsonianmag.com/people-places/wonders-and-whoppers-27166/?page=1]except when he was.

It's not like Marco Polo was the only witness referenced....

[Esquilax]

Here's the thing, Just because we don't understand how something was built doesn't mean it didn't happen. If we had no surviving examples of the pyramids, you'd be hard pressed to prove that they could be build using modern technology, let alone ancient.

So, just to recap: we have claims of boats of a size that we cannot replicate with modern technology and no firm evidence that they ever existed in the first place beyond those claims, and it is your position that purely because the claims exist, it is more probable than not that the ships existed too? And to get there you shift the burden of proof by asserting that we can't show you it's impossible?

You can find accounts of almost anything, if you look hard enough. Rational people, when they see a claim and then see modern, documented evidence that seems to suggest that the claim is impossible, do not go on to accept the claim. That's not the same as outright rejecting it, but to do as you seem to be doing and accepting the claim as plausible when the only evidence we have indicates that it might not even be physically possible, is entirely irrational. Possibility is a necessary precondition to plausibility, and when we have ships like half the size of the ones you're proposing buckling and sinking despite being made of demonstrably stronger materials, we'd need more evidence than old claims to accept that this is possible.

[Believer21u]

No NO NO No!,you believe that YOU have no belief's,and believing in God is,no childish since there 2.2 billion Christian's in the world ,you can't assume it's childish,as not all them are children.

Yeah yeah, and you're happy that 6 billion people are going to hell because they didn't choose the RIGHT imaginary friend.  Poe.

No my friend listen,God's has set it up like this.

First every human being is a sinner.
But the sinner who put's his,trust in Christ will not be judged and will go to heaven,but not those who pretend to be Christian,but those who do his will.
The rest of the people will,fall under God's judgement,and if they tried to follow God by example innocently,trying to follow God through another religion and they were good then they will be saved.

And as for the unbelieving the atheist's and the people who never tried to give God honour will be thrown into the lake of fire.

Your atheism is no excuse to God!!!

"But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."Revelation 21:8


The Church recognizes that God does not condemn those who are innocently ignorant of the truth about his offer of salvation. Regarding the doctrine in question, the Catechism of the Catholic Church (quoting Vatican II document Lumen Gentium, 16) states:

This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church: Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience—those too may achieve eternal salvation. (CCC 847)

All this holds true not only for Christians, but for all men of good will in whose hearts grace works in an unseen way. For, since Christ died for all men, and since the ultimate vocation of man is in fact one, and divine, we ought to believe that the Holy Spirit in a manner known only to God offers to every man the possibility of being associated with this paschal mystery. CCC(22)

[Longhorn]

No....But....You....You were dead!! O_o

[Esquilax]

Your atheism is no excuse to God!!!

I'm not in the habit of offering excuses to beings that just demand that I be held accountable for some nebulous failure; god doesn't just get to be all "it's my opinion that I own you and you are beholden to me, and therefore you are."

[Jackalope]

Someone didn't make that ban permanent. That oversight has been corrected.

[Jackalope]

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Yeah yeah, and you're happy that 6 billion people are going to hell because they didn't choose the RIGHT imaginary friend.  Poe.

No my friend listen,God's has set it up like this.

First every human being is a sinner.
But the sinner who put's his,trust in Christ will not be judged and will go to heaven,but not those who pretend to be Christian,but those who do his will.
The rest of the people will,fall under God's judgement,and if they tried to follow God by example innocently,trying to follow God through another religion and they were good then they will be saved.

And as for the unbelieving the atheist's and the people who never tried to give God honour will be thrown into the lake of fire.

Your atheism is no excuse to God!!!

"But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."Revelation 21:8


The Church recognizes that God does not condemn those who are innocently ignorant of the truth about his offer of salvation. Regarding the doctrine in question, the Catechism of the Catholic Church (quoting Vatican II document Lumen Gentium, 16) states:

This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church: Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience—those too may achieve eternal salvation. (CCC 847)

All this holds true not only for Christians, but for all men of good will in whose hearts grace works in an unseen way. For, since Christ died for all men, and since the ultimate vocation of man is in fact one, and divine, we ought to believe that the Holy Spirit in a manner known only to God offers to every man the possibility of being associated with this paschal mystery. CCC(22)

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Fuck.  Off.

[Homeless Nutter]

[...]Your atheism is no excuse to God!!![...]

Let's hope your stupidity is...

Buh-bye.

[Longhorn]

Someone didn't make that ban permanent. That oversight has been corrected.

Phew. I was questioning my sanity there for a moment. Oh well, moving on....