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September 27, 2015 at 12:44 pm
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(September 27, 2015 at 12:36 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: What ship class is that? It has gun sponsons along the side like a Great War design, but triple turrets aren't on any WW1 class with which I'm familiar.
As I said, WWI Dreadnought. Austro-Hungarian ship named Szént Istvan. It has all the hallmarks of a Dreadnought. Main battery of the same calibre (30,5 cm) and secondary battery too (15 cm).
That's what it looked like in reality.
![[Image: Szent_Istvan.jpg]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/Szent_Istvan.jpg)
And that's "His"(Austro Hingarian ships were always male) history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Szent_Istv%C3%A1n
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September 27, 2015 at 12:59 pm
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The Italians and Americans also used triple turrets on ships of that vintage. The Italian Conti di Cavour class mounted 13 12" guns in three triple and two twin turrets!
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September 27, 2015 at 1:30 pm
(September 27, 2015 at 12:44 pm)abaris Wrote: (September 27, 2015 at 12:36 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: What ship class is that? It has gun sponsons along the side like a Great War design, but triple turrets aren't on any WW1 class with which I'm familiar.
As I said, WWI Dreadnought. Austro-Hungarian ship named Szént Istvan. It has all the hallmarks of a Dreadnought. Main battery of the same calibre (30,5 cm) and secondary battery too (15 cm).
That's what it looked like in reality.
And that's "His"(Austro Hingarian ships were always male) history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Szent_Istv%C3%A1n
Cool! I'm sorry to make you repeat it. I saw after the fact that you'd already been asked, and had answered. I figure nobody else would be interested, so I didn't read ahead.
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September 27, 2015 at 1:33 pm
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Ships and libraries...so much intertwined history 
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September 27, 2015 at 1:35 pm
(September 27, 2015 at 1:30 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Cool! I'm sorry to make you repeat it. I saw after the fact that you'd already been asked, and had answered. I figure nobody else would be interested, so I didn't read ahead.
No, I'm glad someone's interested. What fascinates me are anachronisms. We were once a naval power, not one of the major ones, but still. And that's what got me interested in our naval history, since we even had great admirals. Back in the 80ies I even went to our national archives to copy the blueprints of our ships.
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September 27, 2015 at 1:36 pm
(September 27, 2015 at 1:33 pm)Spooky Wrote: Ships and libraries...so much intertwined history
And I even own a Jane's Fighting ships 1914 almanach.
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September 27, 2015 at 1:48 pm
Jane's is awesome. I had a copy of Jane's (1968 edition) All the World's Aircraft and a copy of Jane's Fighting Aircraft of WW2.
I even had his original (1908?) guide to his naval combat wargame. 
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September 27, 2015 at 2:11 pm
Yeah, I've owned several volumes of Jane's over the years, none vintage.
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September 27, 2015 at 2:44 pm
The Bismarck or Tirpitz are also great battleships to model. Awesome job abaris. Too bad Battleships got obsolete, they were badass.
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September 27, 2015 at 2:48 pm
(September 27, 2015 at 2:44 pm)LastPoet Wrote: The Bismarck or Tirpitz are also great battleships to model. Awesome job abaris. Too bad Battleships got obsolete, they were badass.
They were things of beauty. They never had their purpose, since at their hayday, the submarines already made them obsolete. But they were still in the tradition of the ship of the line. One tiny historical individuality of our navy of old was calling battle ship captains "Linienschiffs-Kapitän", which simply means "Ship of the Line commander".
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