Data Retention & Internet Privacy

[Aractus]

[Minimalist]

Now, Therefore THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY proclaims THIS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS as a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all nations, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping this Declaration constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, national and international, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance, both among the peoples of Member States themselves and among the peoples of territories under their jurisdiction.

Noble sentiment, Danny, but governments have a ready answer for why they ignore it and its been going on for a long time.

"Cease quoting the law! We carry weapons!"

-- Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus

[Aractus]

Well we know we can't trust your government, or the Chinese government, and we shouldn't trust ISPs because even though they might want what's best for their customers they are now a target for hackers.

One of the great lies that the government told when passing through the legislation is that this is "data already collected and accessed by law enforcement agencies". It isn't at all - some of the data is the same, yes, however the logging of email metadata has never been done before, and in fact ISPs and Telcos have worked out in recent years that they don't need to store sensitive usage information for long periods of time, and routinely purge it as a security measure. The fact is that ISPs and Telcos have been collecting less information than in the past and holding onto it for shorter periods of time.

[Kitan Etos]

Aractus, my retarded dear, if the internet was a conspiracy against you, concocted by the government you do not trust, just by posting here you would have long ago been placed in government holding.

Since you are posting here, paranoia seems a great bet for your condition.

[Aractus]

Kitan, even if I trust the Government with my life, I'm not going to trust the 97 private companies (the ISPs) with the data that even the government by law is not allowed to arbitrarily collect and store!

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Kit, internet privacy is important. From what I've read (and to be fair, I didn't read all of it), Aractus isn't being paranoid, just concerned.

Boru

[Little lunch]

Aractus, my retarded dear, if the internet was a conspiracy against you, concocted by the government you do not trust, just by posting here you would have long ago been placed in government holding.

Since you are posting here, paranoia seems a great bet for your condition.

So he's not in a government holding and that's your argument for calling him a retarded dear.
Fuck off, troll.

[houseofcantor]

Privacy is an illusion. For globalization to occur, the cultural mores that seemingly require privacy need to fade to black.

[brewer]

My rule of thumb: Always behave (in public, maybe in private) as if someone is watching. There is a good chance that they either are or have the capability to. Big Brother, not god.

How's that for paranoid?

[Aractus]

mh.brewer that's a disingenuous comment - what if you need to access a sensitive service in which confidentiality - or even anonymity - is required?