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What do you respond to this?
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RE: What do you respond to this?
October 2, 2015 at 9:53 am
(October 2, 2015 at 9:26 am)Pandæmonium Wrote: I say those who say others are misinterpreting the texts are themselves not immune to the same criticism.

^This
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RE: What do you respond to this?
October 2, 2015 at 1:19 pm
(October 2, 2015 at 9:47 am)TRJF Wrote: As others have said, this is what is meant by the "No True Scotsman" fallacy.  For common fallacies like this one, RationalWiki usually has a very good analysis.

Nice try - I know the stench of algebra when I see it. Tryin' to get all mathematical 'n' shit.
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#13
RE: What do you respond to this?
October 2, 2015 at 1:22 pm
Only Westboro Baptist are true christians.  Just ask them.
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RE: What do you respond to this?
October 2, 2015 at 2:01 pm
(October 2, 2015 at 1:22 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Only Westboro Baptist are true christians.  Just ask them.

Ooh, I wish that I could make a nationwide commercial out of that!  People would be running out of churches.  They'd say they were atheists just to make sure they weren't associated with Westboro.
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#15
RE: What do you respond to this?
October 2, 2015 at 3:11 pm
(October 2, 2015 at 7:57 am)marianomanto Wrote: "What those fanatics do is not true Catholicism/Islam/etc. They are misinterpreting the texts, any religion well studied will lead you to peace."

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I studied, lead me to peace, right after bullshit detector kicked in.
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RE: What do you respond to this?
October 2, 2015 at 3:25 pm
(October 2, 2015 at 7:57 am)marianomanto Wrote: "What those fanatics do is not true Catholicism/Islam/etc. They are misinterpreting the texts, any religion well studied will lead you to peace."

Dodgy

"Then why do they all lead to dissension?"

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RE: What do you respond to this?
October 2, 2015 at 3:33 pm (This post was last modified: October 2, 2015 at 3:47 pm by Simon Moon.)
(October 2, 2015 at 7:57 am)marianomanto Wrote: "What those fanatics do is not true Catholicism/Islam/etc. They are misinterpreting the texts, any religion well studied will lead you to peace."

Dodgy


The violent adherents of the various religions, are getting their ideas from the same texts the peaceful adherents do.



Of course, both violent and peaceful adherents are cherry picking.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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#18
What do you respond to this?
October 2, 2015 at 3:35 pm
(October 2, 2015 at 7:57 am)marianomanto Wrote: "What those fanatics do is not true Catholicism/Islam/etc. They are misinterpreting the texts, any religion well studied will lead you to peace."

Dodgy

I would say that any well studied religion will lead to Atheism and then peace.
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RE: What do you respond to this?
October 2, 2015 at 4:11 pm
(October 2, 2015 at 3:33 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:
(October 2, 2015 at 7:57 am)marianomanto Wrote: "What those fanatics do is not true Catholicism/Islam/etc. They are misinterpreting the texts, any religion well studied will lead you to peace."

Dodgy


The violent adherents of the various religions, are getting their ideas from the same texts the peaceful adherents do.



Of course, both violent and peaceful adherents are cherry picking.

I'd disagree. The intent behind evangelicalism is essentially by any means necessary.  Undecided
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#20
RE: What do you respond to this?
October 2, 2015 at 6:09 pm
Thanks, many of those are great answers, specially the ones of cherry picking. I didnt know the not true Scotsman is a good one too.
I told him "with what authority you can say YOUR interpretation is the correct one. Bin Laden had his own interpretation and a whole set of followers as well. How can you, a person not better than me or anyone else, understand the mind of a God?"
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