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RE: Doesn't that make headlines in America? Hospital bombing in Kunduz
October 5, 2015 at 7:16 pm
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RE: Doesn't that make headlines in America? Hospital bombing in Kunduz
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RE: Doesn't that make headlines in America? Hospital bombing in Kunduz
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RE: Doesn't that make headlines in America? Hospital bombing in Kunduz
October 6, 2015 at 12:11 pm
(October 4, 2015 at 5:50 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Yeah...but it is rather like the police investigating their own shootings of unarmed civilians. Does any one have any confidence in those "investigations?"
More like trusting a fox to investigate an attack on a chickens coop. The feathers sticking to his muzzle constitutes only circumstantial evidence.
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RE: Doesn't that make headlines in America? Hospital bombing in Kunduz
October 6, 2015 at 12:22 pm
(October 4, 2015 at 5:44 pm)Tiberius Wrote: I'd wait until further investigation is done before declaring it a war crime. Whilst I admit it's looking more likely, we need to know whether the attacking forces were aware it was a hospital when they authorized the strike.
If they weren't aware, either because they didn't check, or were misinformed, then it's an accident. It shouldn't have happened either way.
Whether they were aware or not I'm sure they'll say they weren't.
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RE: Doesn't that make headlines in America? Hospital bombing in Kunduz
October 6, 2015 at 12:26 pm
Main point, they're investigating themselves. If anything calls for an independent investigation, it's something like that. They may be honest in their intent, but whatever they come up with, will hold little weight internationally.
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RE: Doesn't that make headlines in America? Hospital bombing in Kunduz
October 6, 2015 at 12:28 pm
I'm sure they'll use any loopholes they can to wriggle out of this one if they did it deliberately.
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RE: Doesn't that make headlines in America? Hospital bombing in Kunduz
October 6, 2015 at 12:35 pm
(October 4, 2015 at 5:57 pm)Clueless Morgan Wrote: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2..._nine.html
Quote:In a shocking detail, Doctors Without Borders said the airstrikes “continued for more than 30 minutes after American and Afghan military officials in Kabul and Washington were first informed by MSF that its hospital was struck.” The hospital’s location had also been reported to everyone before the bombing started. “MSF wishes to clarify that all parties to the conflict, including in Kabul and Washington, were clearly informed of the precise location (GPS Coordinates) of the MSF facilities in Kunduz, including the hospital, guesthouse, office and an outreach stabilization unit in Chardara northwest of Kunduz,” the charity added.
So they knew exactly where to put the X.
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RE: Doesn't that make headlines in America? Hospital bombing in Kunduz
October 6, 2015 at 1:14 pm
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(October 6, 2015 at 12:26 pm)abaris Wrote: Main point, they're investigating themselves. If anything calls for an independent investigation, it's something like that. They may be honest in their intent, but whatever they come up with, will hold little weight internationally.
The U.S. military doesn't have an honest bone in its body when it comes to covering its ass. Hopefully Doctors Without Borders can get an outside inquiry going.
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RE: Doesn't that make headlines in America? Hospital bombing in Kunduz
October 6, 2015 at 1:15 pm
I agree but I bet the UK is just as dishonest.
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